A Kid in King Arthur’s Court: Part 2
Put on your best baseball uniform and leap into the time rift with Ben Silverio, Nicole Keating, and Ansel Burch. They’re pop culture observers/ zany podcasters/ excellent friends who have formed a council to discuss with you a film from cultural history, A Kid in King Arthur’s Court.
This is our full spoiler review of this film, talking about the time travel mechanism, historicity, plot, and costume for this movie, which was just innocently sitting there, not asking for this kind of scrutiny at all.
Nicole Keating is @OGNicoleKeating on Twitter and IG.
Ben Silverio is @Bsilverio20 on Twitter and IG.
Ansel Burch is @Indecisionist on Twitter and @TheIndecisionist on IG.
Next week Nicole and Ben are here to give you a shallow dive on something that caught their eye from the movie. Can you guess what they picked? Tweet us using the #Time2Party and see if you can call it. Make sure you’re subscribed because no matter where you are in the timestream, it’s Time 2 Party.
Episode Transcript:
Ben Silverio 0:04
Hey, I'm Ben Silverio.
Nicole Keating 0:07
I'm Nicole Keating
Ansel Burch 0:07
And I'm Ansel Burch
Ben Silverio 0:08
and it's Time to Party.
Ansel Burch 0:12
Today's episode about kid and King Arthur's Court was recorded on December 18 2022. We are not doctors, we don't give medical advice. Please drink responsibly.
Ben Silverio 0:22
That probably fits better than what I did?
Ansel Burch 0:24
Yeah.
Ben Silverio 0:26
Because as the medieval scholar who was who is on the charts at the time, who was topic?
Ansel Burch 0:36
No, no one. No one because we hadn't invented the printing press yet. So nobody could publish music and disseminate it widely so at best, like it was whoever got to travel. Yeah, whoever traveled you might know that guy from like, the town over.
Nicole Keating 0:53
Sounds like d&d. Exactly. Like,
Ansel Burch 0:55
yeah, yeah.
Nicole Keating 0:56
You just know this random Bard from the town over. Yeah. Also, I don't know when they invented charts fit like the idea of a chart. I mean, have more questions about that later in this movie.
Ansel Burch 1:09
Anyway, yeah, neither. Neither here nor there. But yeah, um, God, yeah. Okay. Well, and then the question is, are we going based on when they're costumed? Or are we going based on when King Arthur ought to have
Nicole Keating 1:23
their costumes that is, that is really taking liberties with the idea that there's a specific era that they had in mind at all? Yes, for the first, like, 45 minutes of this movie, I was convinced King Arthur was just wearing a t shirt.
Ansel Burch 1:38
He's just wearing a
Nicole Keating 1:39
t shirt printed on color. I don't know that. I don't know what you're talking about with these costume. I would like what people think Game of Thrones takes place in history. I'm like, No. thrones are. Same. Same. Yeah, yeah.
Ben Silverio 1:55
Before we get too into the costuming debate. Party people welcome back to time to party. Where we spend our time talking about time. Not
Nicole Keating 2:08
traveling there. appertaining on to that was good. That's good. That's good. That's a new tagline workshopping IT spend time talking about time.
Ben Silverio 2:18
What did I say last time?
Ansel Burch 2:20
I don't remember.
Nicole Keating 2:22
You should just change it change it up every time.
Ansel Burch 2:24
That's basically what we're doing at this point. It's pretty much what
Nicole Keating 2:27
happened. See, like I said earlier, sometimes I don't listen to the episodes because I haven't seen the movie. Yes. Like, Oh, no. Another one. I have to skim
Ansel Burch 2:37
pretty sure time to party season four will be now we have a tagline.
Nicole Keating 2:42
That's the tagline. Yeah. And we are talking about a kid in King Arthur's cohorts. That's correct. An adaptation of the Mark Twain classic A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.
Ansel Burch 3:00
It is not? Oh, it's not? Apparently they do. They never listed that amongst their inspirations for the film. They were inspired by all the other things that were inspired by Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. So it's like a third layer of reference. Yeah.
Nicole Keating 3:19
So it's like a fanfiction of a fanfic?
Ansel Burch 3:21
Yeah.
Nicole Keating 3:21
Ah,
Ansel Burch 3:23
I was I was looking at the IMDB fun facts. And they were not fun. But that was one of them that it was like, yeah, they listed a whole bunch of like, secondary references, but not it's just
Nicole Keating 3:35
sort of a pun of the title. And then this sort of third degree of, of inspiration.
Ansel Burch 3:42
They had access to one of the sets from another historical pick at the time, and we're like, Yeah, let's use, you know, let's use that castle.
Nicole Keating 3:51
I was literally just
Ben Silverio 3:53
about castle in Hungary, where they shot the film.
Nicole Keating 3:56
You guys looked up all the facts. I did not look up any of the fact
Ben Silverio 4:00
they shot on location almost entirely in Hungary.
Nicole Keating 4:04
I'm gonna learn. That's very interesting, because to me, it looks like it's all shot on a soundstage right? on a soundstage. Say that for your vocal warmup? Yeah. Before you do the Shakespearean level of absolutely wired to pretend to be in medieval times.
Ben Silverio 4:22
What would Sir Patrick Stewart do
Nicole Keating 4:24
his research? Yeah, his acting homework. Good job. That's true. Preparing an Actor Prepares now, the first thing that I noticed about this movie going into it, was we this is this movie is available on Disney plus
Ansel Burch 4:44
correct. It's also very old at this point. So it's very old full spoilers ahead.
Nicole Keating 4:50
And so if you don't know this, we also gave you the warning in the first episode, watch the movie before you listen to the second episode The 9095
Ben Silverio 4:57
was Yeah, it's been a minute. It's been a minute.
Ansel Burch 5:02
That's Look, don't do the math don't do don't stop at home. That will not make you know, it just won't make you happy.
Nicole Keating 5:11
older and wiser I don't know about y'all falling apart. Like being older and wiser.
Ben Silverio 5:18
I don't like a daily reminder that I'm older and wiser.
Ansel Burch 5:22
Yeah, there's something about knowing that like, Oh, yes, this thing that was seminal to you. That's 30 years old now goes.
Ben Silverio 5:30
Okay. Well, yeah. One of the things that constantly hits me is like, the the media that formed who I am as a person, I am now older than most of the protagonists of those things. I'm just like, damn, should I just get new things? Is that what I need to do?
Nicole Keating 5:49
The problem is that they don't make cool movies about old people. They're all they're all depressing. They're all about like being like old and contemplative and well in the back on your life. I'm just like, you guys. Enjoy something a little bit. I don't give a shit if you're hurt. That's why you can still enjoy something if you're nice.
Ben Silverio 6:09
That's why I love the Golden Girls.
Nicole Keating 6:11
Yes, exactly. Exactly. We need more Golden Girls.
Ben Silverio 6:14
Absolutely. The more golden girls but the fun fact about Golden Girls is that essentially the age that they start the show at is Marissa Tomek right now, you know, so if that shows me now, they would all look like Marissa. Yeah, and Marissa Tomi, as and may make sense because she's about the age of the AMA would be in Spider Man, the animated series. But back then Spider Man The Animated Series was made by a bunch of people who were like, Oh, she's, she's past her. 50s So she, she ancient, practically
Ansel Burch 6:48
dead. Looks like
Nicole Keating 6:50
a little old grandmother. She looks at me must have just had a hard life y'all the mileage. But speaking of things that make us sad slash a little like nostalgics sad is implied in the saw in the soldier, awesome element. The old school Disney intro was on this on Disney plus, and I feel like every time I've watched an older Disney movie recently, it's been the new Disney intro. And granted a lot of the ones I've seen I've seen on TV because they've just been like on but it's that dude. With a like, yeah, scroll up animation
Ben Silverio 7:30
didn't even I didn't realize
Nicole Keating 7:32
heartbreak, and then we transition immediately into some like fake epic music. The world has changed. Yeah. And so this intro in my mind is cinematically perfect.
Ansel Burch 7:44
It's me. I'm back.
Nicole Keating 7:46
It's me.
Ben Silverio 7:48
If you don't know what we're talking about when we say kidding King Arthur's Court. Here's what our new friends at Rotten Tomatoes. Tell us about the movie. When a violent earthquake rocks Southern California, hapless teenager Calvin fuller finds himself careening through a hole torn in the fabric of time. Calvin awakens in the Middle Ages, where legendary sorcerer Merlin recruits him to read the Camelot of evil Calvin misuses 20th century street smarts out with to outwit the despicable Lord Glasgow I'm trying to be professional here. Lord Glasgow. Lewis nobleman, determined to wrest control of the throne from King Arthur. How much time does Rotten Tomatoes have when they do these things? Like they they really go all out?
Ansel Burch 8:46
How much time or how many interns?
Ben Silverio 8:48
Well, that's that's a whole other thing. God I remember. I remember interning in Hollywood. That was a that was a thing. Why are there new friends at Rotten Tomatoes? Because we normally share the synopsis from IMDB. And we used to do them. Yeah, we're doing rotten
Nicole Keating 9:05
tomatoes instead.
Ben Silverio 9:07
Rotten Tomatoes also also first episode is IMDB. Second episode is rotten tomatoes.
Nicole Keating 9:13
I see a third episode is how I haven't seen any of the movies in this season that you've released so far.
Ansel Burch 9:19
did none of these have been released yet? Oh, this they're all.
Nicole Keating 9:23
We're all doing season two. Now. Also, we're still in season one.
Ansel Burch 9:26
No, we're, we're touring season three now. Yes.
Nicole Keating 9:30
Are you they haven't seen a lot of the movies you've covered. Yeah, it's okay. I've watched like, watched. I've listened to like, four of the movie.
Ben Silverio 9:40
You know how this works. We
Ansel Burch 9:42
usually do IMDb every time and then Stella very smartly was like why don't you do a different one every time and
Nicole Keating 9:49
the reason I was asking is because I was like, I hope they're not sponsors. So we can say things.
Ansel Burch 9:54
Oh, yeah, please. Yeah,
Ben Silverio 9:55
absolutely. Say things about Rotten Tomatoes.
Ansel Burch 9:57
Hashtag that's fun. Yeah,
Ben Silverio 9:59
I'll run The score that Rotten Tomatoes gives a kid in this court. Great. It is 5% on the tomato meter Wow, the audience score is 27%. Like this is this is my whole gripe with film criticism. Sure, it may not be for you, but it's for someone that might enjoy it's for kids. That is the whole thing. It's
Ansel Burch 10:29
for kids this time traveling Little League players.
Ben Silverio 10:34
But like I'm obviously not going to grade this on the same curve as I am the fable mins. Like the fable mins is Oscar bait. So this is this is not Oscar bait, as we said, children's movie, but like, like we said in episode one, if this came out later, this would be a Disney Channel Original Movie. Yeah, and it feels like it because of the way it's laid out.
Nicole Keating 10:57
It very much feels like a Disney Channel, original movie and it very much. I think if it had come out as a Disney Channel, original movie, it might have the same sort of cultural cachet as xenon.
Ben Silverio 11:08
Absolutely. Sure. 100%. Well, you know, we should start there by talking about why you pick this movie, Nicole?
Nicole Keating 11:17
Well, I explained at the top of last episode, the connection to warrior Pope. And the last time I saw this movie, and it was always just, you know, was a childhood favorite because like I said, I've always been the same. And I wanted to revisit this one I love I love a medieval history. I love a Caitlin's lit. And again, it's a feel good film. At the end of the day, it really is an inspirational sports movie. So it is just a classic and very near and dear to my heart. I did not. I did not remember everything that happens in this movie. But as soon as things started happening, I would remember them instantly and be like, I know exactly what's going to happen next.
Ben Silverio 12:09
First, I believe the movie to pair, a king, a Caden care of this court with would have to be Rookie of the Year.
Nicole Keating 12:17
It literally came up as the next thing on absolutely closed. And then it was like because you watched kid in King Arthur's Court, rookie of the year. And I again also in my notes. law law law, Disney plus actually literally suggested Rookie of the Year. Maybe I'll come back to that after I finish mind over murder, the HBO True Crime documentary about the graphic rape and murder of an elderly woman. Wow. So that's what I'm going to call back or my after Yeah, my after movie meant when I was in high school again, I've always been the same. I used to pair the movie quills with the with the Carebears
Ansel Burch 12:59
movie great movie.
Nicole Keating 13:00
Oh quills is one of my favorite movies. Speaking of Kate Winslet.
Ben Silverio 13:03
Well, you know, that was one of my notes. Also. Literally in all caps. It was Kate Winslet and Daniel Craig. I forgot the bullseye for this movie.
Nicole Keating 13:14
I of course, remember Kate Winslet for multiple reasons. But I did also make I did not remember Daniel Craig. But you know, it's good when Kate Winslet is seventh billing, seventh billing at some early Winslet catalog. Some of my favorite ones lists.
Ben Silverio 13:32
So, Nicole, you You were born and raised in Illinois, right? Yes. So did you have a connection to Thomas Ian Nicholas? Because of a rookie of the year
Nicole Keating 13:45
I believe I actually watched rookie of the year after this. Wow. Okay. Um, I was raised by a single mom who is not very like sporty and enough herself. She's kind of outdoorsy, but she's not like, Okay, put it this way. She's not as into movies as I am. And so she definitely would not go in for the inspirational sports movies. She is the type of person who like she wants the straight up drama or the straight up comedy. She wants the shits Creek. She wants the severance. She wants no one between. No Yeah, she just she wants all that nothing with genre. Every time she asked me for a recommendation. I'm like, I've got some but this one has vampires. And this one has dragons and this one has spaceships. So you're probably not going to like any of them. She once asked me a question and in order to answer the question, I had to explain something about the flash to her and glaze right over. And so I did not see rookie of the year until after this because I sought it out. And when I was younger, my sister and I would play this game where we would surprise each other with a movie. And we had to guess what movie it was based on what the trailers came before what trailers came before it. Wow. And so one of the trailers, we have this movie on VHS, and one of the trailers before this was for rookie of the year. It existed. But I didn't really know I liked sports at all at that point. So I had to seek that one out.
Ben Silverio 15:17
Calvin Fuller, who was timid and quiet at the beginning of this movie, was so incredibly confident when he got to Campbell.
Ansel Burch 15:27
Turns out All he needed was some head trauma.
Ben Silverio 15:30
Apparently, a little bit of a little bit of a knock about Yeah, cuz he didn't question for one second, Camelot was real look,
Nicole Keating 15:38
he got used to this really fast. Everybody got used to this really fucking fast.
Ansel Burch 15:44
Everybody else just thought he was from a different place. At no time. Do any of the other characters acknowledge that time travel has happened? Calvin is the only one who is aware.
Nicole Keating 15:54
Yes. And he but he figures it out very quickly, and deals with it completely.
Ben Silverio 16:01
But that's the thing on how flammable But Calvin is very intelligent, as we see throughout the movie. So doesn't he realize that King Arthur wasn't an actual thing.
Ansel Burch 16:14
I mean, I think when you are physically faced with a group of people who are a thing, like your options are to completely lose grip with reality, or accept that you are in this place with these people. And I think that's how the Renaissance Fair works.
Ben Silverio 16:33
Oh, okay.
Nicole Keating 16:35
That's fair. King Arthur is not real,
Ben Silverio 16:37
because I mean, surely we saw him in the movie.
Ansel Burch 16:48
There's maybe a tomb for him. There's maybe a castle. But like, the whole thing is that a may or may not be French.
Ben Silverio 16:56
But wasn't the whole thing that he's like an amalgamation of historical
Ansel Burch 17:00
figures right there that is one theory's possible. Yeah.
Ben Silverio 17:04
So like for him to get the history Correct. Like pretty quickly.
Ansel Burch 17:08
It is interesting. You brought up Santa, I'm gonna derail immediately. It's interesting, you bring up Santa because it is a similar thing, where King Arthur was a French story that was told about this ancient king who sleeps, and we'll come back. And the first. The first manuscripts we have of it are from the early medieval period, which tells us that if Arthur was a real person, he is from like, the first century or some shit like wood way back. Which is why some iterations have Arthur in like Roman garb and fighting with the pics and stuff. But popular, and because it became popular in Medieval Period, medieval people did not have a strong historicity concept. And so we're like, yeah, he worked clothes like us. And swords. Like, we've got castles. Like, we've got
Nicole Keating 18:14
unbelief. I believe this dialect that you're using for this medieval period, early medieval French. Yeah, it's about as accurate as the dialect used in this movie. Yeah, for
Ansel Burch 18:23
sure. So Arthur was one of those things that like a lot of people told Arthur stories. He was a popular story, right? And then some jackass wrote him down. And that's when we started having romances of him, which just meant books. And then those romances became a popular thing for you to fanfic on. And if your fanfic got written down, well, chances are pretty good. That was the only book in your whole fucking town. And so here we are, hundreds of years later reading, you know, whatever it was that you wrote, so some of them are bananas. There's one Arthurian legend where Arthur fights are no it's not even Arthur it's one of the other knights fights of fish night.
Unknown Speaker 19:09
Ah, yes.
Ansel Burch 19:10
Have you read this one? I have the fit the night and the horse are all one fish creature.
Ben Silverio 19:16
I'm sorry King Arthur versus Aquaman but Aquaman who's a centaur Aquaman
Oh yeah, like he's not riding a seahorse?
Ansel Burch 19:26
No, he's full the full body of a horse and the night on top of him are all together somehow stand
Nicole Keating 19:34
by our a fish thing and more I know less. I'm not a medieval scholar like you. Oh,
Ansel Burch 19:42
I would hardly call myself I minored
Nicole Keating 19:45
my more of my expertise is in like the early modern era and most of that is I didn't even minor because the wreck the like prereqs for minoring are too boring.
Ben Silverio 19:54
But do you have a favorite Arthurian lore
Nicole Keating 19:57
like a version of the myth, right like A version of the common man, this is a very good question. I wish you had given me this question in advance. I'm
Ben Silverio 20:06
sorry.
Nicole Keating 20:07
I have a
Ansel Burch 20:11
Monty Python.
Nicole Keating 20:12
Yeah. Oh my fucking.
Ben Silverio 20:14
So I have three. That's so that's such a good choice. spamela the musical. Okay, specifically the musical. Not the movie. All right, a sword in the stone. The Disney movie. Oh my god and Green Knight. I haven't seen so good. They
Ansel Burch 20:31
made that movie for me. And I haven't watched yet and that's a crime.
Nicole Keating 20:33
I thought they all watched it at my place. And I had a show and I came back at the very end and all y'all were talking about his magical comreg and I was like, I don't know what happened in this movie. And everybody is shouting about this man's magical comreg what is happening Green
Ben Silverio 20:50
Knight is a phenomenal Christmas movie. Oh, is it?
Nicole Keating 20:52
Maybe I'll use that as an excuse to watch it because I do really want to
Ansel Burch 20:57
go how much of a horror movie is it? Because that's what's keeping
Ben Silverio 20:59
like, not okay. It's just, it's,
Ansel Burch 21:03
it's somebody sold it to me as a horror movie. And my wife is like absolute no, no,
Nicole Keating 21:08
I at least from what I saw. And I mean, I obviously saw I like I saw the climax of the movie, and only that which would ostensibly be the scariest part, right? It's just very like, eerie. Yeah, I'm sure Emery is a good word for it. In the way of like a Beowulf being eerie. Like it's definitely makes sense. Yeah, it should be. Yeah. But Dev
Ben Silverio 21:29
Patel does a phenomenal job. The makeup is just insane. Yeah. Like, oh, it's so good. I have on the shelf over
Nicole Keating 21:39
there. This might be one of my favorite. That's fair. Other than my pretentious pick, which is the original and walked off to like epic poetry.
Ansel Burch 21:48
Oh, are we including books in this? Because I Oh, okay. Oh, you
Nicole Keating 21:51
know what? I went straight to
Ben Silverio 21:54
more learned than I am. Which is why all three of mine were movies and that well, okay, two more movies. One is musical.
Nicole Keating 22:01
I do have more doctors. Yes. Really good. I do have a soft spot for the King Arthur with the Ridley Scott with it. That's really Scott Wright with Keira Knightley. Yes. Clive Owen and young Roman. I have a soft spot for that one, as well as the motherfucking mists of Avalon. Even though Marion Zimmer Bradley is so problematic.
Ansel Burch 22:25
Oh, is she Damn it? I haven't been paying attention to her children
Nicole Keating 22:28
have come out with sexual assault allegations against her and their father. Fucking No, no.
Ben Silverio 22:38
I'm a little surprised that you didn't say Camelot. Right. Was that the name of that show? whirlen Merlin the BBC. No one's gonna list that. Neither have I but i i pegged you as someone who would have watched it. You've pegged me, not without your consent.
Nicole Keating 22:58
I mean, I approve.
Ansel Burch 22:59
If that's an option, at least
Nicole Keating 23:01
Lord Glasgow asks for consent at one point. He
Ansel Burch 23:05
does. Like a not good way but you do not
Nicole Keating 23:09
consent to marry me.
Ben Silverio 23:13
But he also wants to make Camelot great again.
Ansel Burch 23:16
Yeah, that phrasing was I audibly made a noise. Me too.
Nicole Keating 23:23
Did Trump pull it from this?
Ben Silverio 23:25
Oh, no.
Ansel Burch 23:26
I doubt it. plagiarize. Do you think he's got that kind of memory?
Nicole Keating 23:30
No. Someone on his staff does though.
Ben Silverio 23:33
Jr. Watch this movie as a kid? Yeah. He did. Yeah,
Ansel Burch 23:39
yeah. And then he just wouldn't shut up. And he was like, fine. Put it on the hat.
Nicole Keating 23:43
I need to say before we actually fully jump back in time in this movie. Just a couple more things about baseball. One because I love an inspirational sports movie. The villain team is wearing packers colors. Ah, and given the affiliation with the Chicago Cubs that ti n already has. And obviously now Wisconsin is the villain. This is a firmly even though he's from receita which apparently I've been spelling wrong my entire life. I've watched this movie with the caption Sam and I watch everything with the captions. But I've always spelled it our A C I
Ansel Burch 24:25
know Yeah, apparently that's not really that's not it. That's not it. Yep.
Ben Silverio 24:29
There's two ways to
Ansel Burch 24:31
what do you suspect to the other team was supposed to be because their logo is like a backwards J Yeah. So I wonder if there's a gestures of the jacks or the Joker's or something.
Nicole Keating 24:41
I thought Jack's knights and Jack's right, that seems
Ansel Burch 24:47
because he's a knight or the night
Nicole Keating 24:49
gestures would have also been appropriate. Did you
Ansel Burch 24:51
catch that? Princess Katie was in the crowd.
Nicole Keating 24:56
Yes at the beginning. Oh really? Yes. Because I've watched this Movie 10,000 But
Ben Silverio 25:01
at the end she's wearing a jersey. I, because if she's on his team, he's not very perceptive.
Ansel Burch 25:10
There are also were there girls on his team before the time jump? No, no, he jumps back in time. And now it's a co Ed team, which is great. Sold. Love it.
Nicole Keating 25:20
I love it too. Murli maybe worked a little retcon Yeah, sure. That's how I always figured it. Because if she's in the crowd, cool, but there is also the fact of like, maybe this is all just a dream,
Ben Silverio 25:34
right? That's the thing that I came, there was him to at the end, you know, like, if Merlin dropped him off before the earthquake, the earthquake didn't happen. So wasn't just all a dream for him to build his confidence. And if that were the case, and she was on his team, and she has these memories of like, practicing with him and hanging out with him and all this stuff, like, bro, you fucked up.
Nicole Keating 25:59
I don't know. But it could also just be magic. I also like to think that, you know, Kate and Daniel Craig are ruling the kingdom and he's, and he and King King Arthur and Katie came back to the future, if you will, to hang out and be with cow.
Ansel Burch 26:18
Do you think it's that they come back to the future? Or is it one of those like, I found someone who looks just like you in my time, which happens sometimes the end she does give him the bedroom eyes. Yeah. Like, are they the teenage attempt at Express
Nicole Keating 26:31
expressive eyebrows? Yeah. When she was all the way to the end of the movie or anything else about the baseball? I
Ben Silverio 26:38
mean, one of the things about receita. You know, being in the valley, not everyone in the valley surely knows karate, right? Does he know karate? Yeah, he's doing karate in his castle. Is he
Ansel Burch 26:55
I think he's doing what he learned in a karate movie. That's what he said
Ben Silverio 26:58
he went to karate class after a bully was picking on him. That's true.
Nicole Keating 27:03
His dad says, like speaking of these baseball scenes, at the very end, I was definitely like, Oh, now he's going to be good at baseball. So his dad will love him. Like he seems to have a very problematic relationship with
Ansel Burch 27:16
his dad. So dads be apparently him up
Nicole Keating 27:19
that he signed him up for this karate class. But also, karate is kind of a nerd sport. Also,
Ben Silverio 27:26
if karate kid has taught us anything, it's that everyone in the valley knows karate. Yeah, yeah. And they don't want to talk anything out
Ansel Burch 27:33
as they solve their problems.
Ben Silverio 27:36
I just have to say, though, I do love Cobra Kai. So much, because it's so funny. Because of, and it's not even because of Daniel Russo. It's because of the rival. Oh, my Johnny Lawrence. Yeah, he's stuck in the 80s. So to see him in the modern day, is just the highlight of the show. But the writers of Cobra Kai have managed to get to the heart of Johnny Lawrence and Daniel Russo, and all this stuff. So watch Cobra Kai on Netflix, is what I'm saying.
Nicole Keating 28:13
It's highly recommend.
Ben Silverio 28:15
You know, we're gonna watch it together. For the most part. We didn't watch the antic. We didn't watch the most recent season together. But
Nicole Keating 28:22
how many seasons did the show to start? No, like three
Ben Silverio 28:25
years? Jesus Christ.
Nicole Keating 28:26
Yeah. COVID learning so much today.
Ben Silverio 28:29
It started on YouTube read. And then Netflix picked it up and then continued it.
Nicole Keating 28:35
Okay, I'm not even going to ask a question. For you to print. I feel like asking a question in this room is like typing it into Wikipedia. I'm literally gonna find the whole article. Right.
Ansel Burch 28:46
We've talked a little bit about when we first saw the Kings outfit, but we haven't talked at all about the beginning of the movie Other than that, the beginning of the medieval period of the movie.
Nicole Keating 28:56
I fully didn't remember how he time traveled it really happened fast right
Ben Silverio 29:01
time travel mechanism does require a lot of suspension of disbelief to magic portal. magic portal very Wonderland in
Nicole Keating 29:10
very Wonderland. Yeah. And with the whole and
Ansel Burch 29:13
I do appreciate that it deposits him above the Black Knight for some reason. That seems unnecessary. But here we are. That's Merlin sees
Ben Silverio 29:23
the Black Knight as a threat. Right? Because he doesn't know who the Black Knight is. Yeah, I
Ansel Burch 29:29
suppose at that point. We think the Black Knight is a problem. Right?
Nicole Keating 29:31
You think the Black Knight is a problem? But how does Merlin should know right? He can see through time or is he just or is that just in fell
Ansel Burch 29:39
in fairness? I'm not sure that Kate Winslet knew at that point in the movie that she was the Black Knight so
Nicole Keating 29:45
no, no, I think they might have dropped that in way later. Yeah, that
Ansel Burch 29:49
was a third act edit. Somebody was like, What how do we end this movie? Kate, can you wear the armor? Speaking of
Nicole Keating 29:57
the middle of the movie, they really dropped the whole black no They plot for like
Ben Silverio 30:01
they really do most of the time in fair enough
Ansel Burch 30:04
that when she shows up or it's the Black Knight shows up in the middle of the movie to give out like food to the peasants, you're like, oh, yeah
that's right. That was a problem we were supposed to be dealing with.
Nicole Keating 30:20
The appearance of Daniel Craig was again a surprise. And as much as I was definitely very young when this movie came out, but as much as the young heart center of the movie is supposed to be callin Katie, I was always of course more into Kate Winslet and Daniel Craig. Especially that blonde mushroom cut. Oh, yeah, for a hot second. I thought about doing the mushroom cut as my little bit of like deep dive historical info. Oh, there you go. There is a picture of my husband David couch in a play when he was in college where he has the full like full blow out with a little curl on Hell yeah. Oh, beautiful. Full Page boy. Period. Really? This movie blends all these time periods. Yeah, we're getting we're getting medieval. We're getting Renaissance we're getting no research was done. It's fine. No 00 research was done. They walked into spirit Halloween, and we're like, give me the medieval costume.
Ansel Burch 31:25
And we talk about how I mean, it's completely unnecessary, but like just to illustrate the point and so we can get off of it. If you had ever read an Arthurian myth, you'd know any of the other names.
Nicole Keating 31:40
None of them are there.
Ansel Burch 31:41
Arthur and Merlin are it
Ben Silverio 31:43
right? Yeah. And he mentioned when a ver, but were not by name. No helix.
Ansel Burch 31:48
They never say her name. Yeah.
Ben Silverio 31:50
When he's talking to Excalibur? I don't think he's in the scene in his study, which is, which is Merlin's room. Arthur Arthur says whenever
Ansel Burch 32:00
I will choose to believe you. But i i When I was watching it, I was like, does he not remember his wife's name? Yeah, no, maybe as
Ben Silverio 32:07
whenever veer in like, oh, you left me here to deal with this bullshit,
Ansel Burch 32:13
essentially. So they remembered three names. Yeah. But like,
Ben Silverio 32:17
none of the other knights of the roundtable are there. In fact, we don't even get the roundtable until later.
Nicole Keating 32:22
Because there's that sort of creation paradox where where Calvin gives him Yeah, key idea.
Ben Silverio 32:28
Oh, round table.
Ansel Burch 32:30
Maybe. Maybe we're supposed to believe that bores and going come along later,
Nicole Keating 32:35
late later, but King Arthur so.
Ansel Burch 32:38
But then Lancelot can't fuck Gwyneth here. That's true. It's very important.
Ben Silverio 32:45
What happens? Yeah.
Ansel Burch 32:48
Yeah. Best Friends gotta fuck his wife. I, and he's got to be kind of cool
Nicole Keating 32:53
about it. I don't think this movie had a fight choreographer. And at one point, I took that note. And then at another point, I said, Yeah, I really don't think so. And then at the end of the movie, when there's like this big climactic battle, and Arthur is like, I'm like, oh, no, they definitely didn't have a fight choreographer, the director. Did they know
Ben Silverio 33:15
what Director Michael Gottlieb is known for? Aside from a kid in King Arthur's Court,
Nicole Keating 33:23
my college JTE Jewish Theatre Ensemble production of Children of Eden that's what the name Michael Gottlieb conjures in my mind.
Ben Silverio 33:34
Fair enough. The movies that he was known for prior to this were mannequin. Oh, mannequin to and Mr. Nanny, and what Mr. Nan starring Hulk Hogan? Yeah.
Nicole Keating 33:49
I don't even know that last movie.
Ben Silverio 33:51
Oh, I hear yourself fortunate. I mean, I as a wrestling fan, in the 90s I knew obligated Absolutely. Because Hulk Hogan was just fucking ridiculous back then. Before he knew he was a racist. Yeah, but yeah, Michael Godley does not have that many credits because first of all, following the release of a kitten King Arthur's court, he transitioned into the video game industry as producer for the remainder of his entertainment career. And he passed away in May 2014 Because of motorcycle accident.
Nicole Keating 34:34
Holy shit that's fucking devastating. Wow, was this episode I'm kidding. Arthur's Court. So serious and so sad. Sorry, one down your that's another rule for I think you just have to pour one down the gullet for Michael got out of respect
Ben Silverio 34:49
out of respect. Live to 69 years old.
Ansel Burch 34:54
Nice nice. Is that rude?
Nicole Keating 35:00
If I if if I were to die at 69 I would hope you
Ansel Burch 35:05
consider that. at your funeral, we will all go
Ben Silverio 35:09
nice. But obviously his movies were not very action heavy. You had Mr. Danny but like, mannequin.
Ansel Burch 35:20
Also he's what age in this at the at the time of this? Well, he certainly seemed like this the sort of age where you shouldn't have expected him to get into a sort
Ben Silverio 35:32
of 1945
Ansel Burch 35:34
Okay, so in 1994 He would have been 9595 It was 95 Well, that was when it was released. But we're assuming, assuming assuming filming was in 94 and three, yes. So he's like, Wow. 50 Yeah, he's not even 50 yet. Yeah, man. It's the mileage.
Nicole Keating 36:01
The mileage I want to come back to wrestling for a second. Okay, because one thing towards the end of this movie that I did not fucking understand at all, was the rules of this joust. First of all, how many Falls is this match scheduled for right? Because I think it's one but it doesn't seem to have any rules. Are we doing a bracket? Like what's the deal?
Ben Silverio 36:25
Is it a round robin tournament one and done?
Ansel Burch 36:27
It is bananas that every single writer gets on horse bananas.
Nicole Keating 36:32
Are they dead? People are getting wheeled off the field and I was like, is that fucking dead?
Ansel Burch 36:38
So frequently? There are two things happen when you get knocked off a horse in a real joust one your armor is really fucking heavy. Yeah. So like to stand you back up and walk you off the field as a whole thing. So it's easier to just cut you off. And like that makes sense. And to you just got your bell rung hard. Traumatic brain injury is the person they're quite
Nicole Keating 37:08
high. Yeah. TBI. Yeah, um, I think that
Ansel Burch 37:14
so they cite the rule they cite the rule of like he's still on his horse. He gets to go again say
Nicole Keating 37:19
that later because they say that after Cal says yeah, you know the rules and I'm so counting those who really don't know the rules Cal please explain it to me. And then they do
Ben Silverio 37:31
Calvin's learning at the at the at the knee of master cane for however long he's been,
Ansel Burch 37:36
however long that has been there been non-specified
Ben Silverio 37:40
hosting is that for a tournament like this to win Camelot to win Excalibur and to win them and of Kate Winslet. There's only one event. Like, wouldn't there be events or just something like this? Yeah,
Nicole Keating 37:57
I mean, I say tournament and tournament implies
Ben Silverio 38:00
even in a Knight's Tale. He has to go through multiple events, right? I
Nicole Keating 38:04
mean, he doesn't care. It
Ben Silverio 38:05
doesn't.
Ansel Burch 38:06
So he does multiple events because he wants to win multiple prizes.
Ben Silverio 38:10
Oh, and the joust is the most
Ansel Burch 38:14
prestigious and that's why we stopped doing the sword in the Knight's Tale is one of the few things about the Knight's Tale that's like yeah, that that makes.
Ben Silverio 38:22
So what you're saying is A Knight's Tale is more historically accurate than a kid and King Arthur's
Nicole Keating 38:27
easily Yes, yeah, I would. I would not hesitate shares Alan Tudyk here Yeah. I continually compare this to Knight's Tale in my mind while watching it. There's a lot of similarities. You know what I kept similar vibe.
Ansel Burch 38:44
You know what I kept comparing it to is the court jester starring.
Nicole Keating 38:49
Yes, the chalice with the something Charles from
Ansel Burch 38:53
the palace has the poison poison with the fervor. Yeah. That's the dragon has the truth. Prove that is true. Yes, yes. But then they break the flag and with the dragon.
Nicole Keating 39:02
Oh, no. So sad. It's all it? Yes, that
Ansel Burch 39:07
is. And they even do the same gag. They do. They do the the do one pass and the helmet gets knocked off. And there's their little everybody's like, Oh my God, he's so dead.
Nicole Keating 39:21
Yeah, I want to, like
Ansel Burch 39:23
pokes his head up. And again, Danny Kaye,
Nicole Keating 39:27
we want to be respectful. We are so we are so critical of this movie. But we want to be respectful to the fact that this is a children's movie. And
Ansel Burch 39:36
I don't think any of what we're lampooning takes away from it being fun.
Nicole Keating 39:39
Oh, no, absolutely not. I had a great time. rewatching this movie. I would love to show this to a new generation. Like I feel like this is such a good I
Ben Silverio 39:50
feel like they would react the same way that my nieces reacted to a Goofy Movie. They'd be like, What the fuck is this?
Nicole Keating 39:56
It depends on the age you introduce them. That's fair. I did I also tried to show my niece new hope when she was like nine months. Well,
she was, I was like, well, first day was like, Are you sure that her dad's not gonna be mad that he's not the first one? Yeah, that's, uh, and I was like,
Ansel Burch 40:16
Oh, you're right. Your brother or his brother.
Nicole Keating 40:19
It says my brother in law my sister's husband. And
Ansel Burch 40:24
so yeah, you want that's that's, I mean, I obviously want no holds barred, but she,
Nicole Keating 40:30
but she was just not into it. Right?
Ben Silverio 40:31
Well, she's
Ansel Burch 40:32
nine months old.
Ben Silverio 40:33
I feel like you need to be nine years old to appreciate Star Wars.
Nicole Keating 40:37
Absolutely not. I can't remember. I cannot remember the first time I watched Star Wars. That's how early I watched that in Indiana Jones and Errol Flynn's Robin Hood
Ben Silverio 40:48
Do you That's another one. Indiana Jones Back to the Future Star Wars The Goonies are all around like 10
Nicole Keating 40:54
still never seen the Goonies. I? Yeah, I feel like I saw all those movies way earlier. Wow. Yeah, other than the Goonies, which I never saw. Interesting. I mean, not as early I didn't come to.
Ansel Burch 41:09
I've still never seen the Goonies,
Nicole Keating 41:11
ya know?
Ben Silverio 41:12
Wow. Yeah. I mean, like, it was a staple for me. Because all of my classmates would talk about it. Yeah, in the same breath as like Billy Madison in Greece. You know, like, those are movies that we all watched in, like, Philadelphia, like Philly, super early culture, you know, like, I feel like Greece was a big part of the youth culture, because we all knew it. And we all could quote, Billy Madison, and Happy Gilmore
Ansel Burch 41:40
for after the French pence moved west.
Ben Silverio 41:44
Obviously French principles at birth. We knew that from the very beginning.
Nicole Keating 41:49
I think you're in film if you're born in Philadelphia and surrounds you come out of the womb knowing that it's the first thing you your cry your first cry is in
Ben Silverio 42:00
West Philadelphia and that and then voice man so are they a Philly thing?
Nicole Keating 42:08
Yes. They are absolutely are like the
Ben Silverio 42:11
the Philly thing like they I have seen boys two men perform with DJ Jazzy Jeff. Multiple times. Wow. And the roots. Wow, the roots were also there
Nicole Keating 42:24
other than the roots you're really dating yourself because eternal?
Ben Silverio 42:28
Truly My God truly Oh, story. I ran into quest love when I was getting donuts after I voted.
Ansel Burch 42:37
Because Questlove makes good decisions.
Nicole Keating 42:40
Quest halls are getting donor he was absolutely.
Ben Silverio 42:43
It's this place called federal donuts. It was the location in like Fishtown, which is kind of like the the were challengers is what's the Bucktown it's like the Bucktown of Philadelphia. And they're known for their doughnuts. Philadelphia has a neighborhood called Fish town. Correct? Because it used to be like the fantasy location.
Nicole Keating 43:09
Fish town, it's just down at the corner of Waterdeep.
Ansel Burch 43:13
Exactly like Yeah, it's like,
Ben Silverio 43:16
right at the river. So the factories right there that would deal with the fish, right. But federal donuts was known for artisanal doughnuts and fried chicken.
Ansel Burch 43:27
I mean, I guess you got the fryer. Yeah,
Nicole Keating 43:29
that goes together really? Well. At first I was like, Wait, then I was like chicken and waffles.
Ansel Burch 43:35
Yeah, can you get the two together? Like oh,
Ben Silverio 43:38
they're like, if sandwich order like a two piece like chicken. It comes with a donut.
Nicole Keating 43:44
Biscuit. That's fascinating. I
Ben Silverio 43:46
like that. Absolutely. You can get the chicken sandwich, which is very good. But I like is it to donuts? It's not to donuts, but there was a place we used to do that. That also had adult milkshakes, which was phenomenal. Don't like you don't like adult milkshakes.
Nicole Keating 44:02
I don't like ice cream alcohol combos.
Ben Silverio 44:05
See, like this place? Well, you know, I'm
Ansel Burch 44:09
not gonna fight you.
Nicole Keating 44:11
For me, it's just like, not again,
Ben Silverio 44:12
but also your household does not like dairy period, right?
Nicole Keating 44:17
I mean, I like cheese. Yeah, but Dave
Ben Silverio 44:19
hates milk.
Nicole Keating 44:21
We don't Yeah, we don't drink like despises milk. People. No, no, I don't like regular milk either.
Ben Silverio 44:28
The holy cow that they get is the spotted cow. When I was
Nicole Keating 44:31
four years old, I got in trouble because I was supposed to drink milk with every meal. And instead of drinking it, I hid it behind the chair. And it was like, like, like, like a like a chair in the living room. And then a week later my mom found all of these cups. Oh, no, I was like you haven't been drinking this and I was like, No, I fucking hate it. Yeah, we are not a milk household. We are. I am a cheese household. We are not a milk household. Other than soy cheese, this movie
Ansel Burch 45:08
secret passages
Ben Silverio 45:10
passages strange wants to know was about Yes, literally everyone the castle knows the well known passages. Yes, it's my biggest critique for the movie is that Calvin is incredibly inconsistent. Like he's really unsure and timid in the beginning and then immediately at like, literally at a snap, he's confident and sure of himself, and being the smooth operator with Katie.
Ansel Burch 45:39
Yep, you know, suddenly he's got something over on these don't
Ben Silverio 45:42
absolutely ensure He's intelligent. But that's not something that they establish right away in the beginning of
Nicole Keating 45:49
I felt like they established that in the beginning. I always read the like, wait, but that's four things I always read that is him being kind of like, he's not a sport guy. He's not. And again, you can't be more than one thing. You can't be good at sports and smart. Obviously, not in the 1990s. We didn't
Ansel Burch 46:07
in that economy.
Nicole Keating 46:09
No. And so I always assumed that that was a little bit of a hint of his intelligence. Sure. And so I think that while it may be not necessarily demonstrated, the most effectively in the script writing, I see the intention as being there. I see his intelligence score as definitely being his top stat, intelligence and probably charisma.
Ben Silverio 46:36
On the flip side, During the final battle, where Arthur and Calvin are fighting off of Glasgow's henchmen, we've established that Katie can fight better than Alvin. In some cases. Yeah. And
Nicole Keating 46:51
she's the women can fight better. Absolutely.
Ben Silverio 46:55
And Katie doesn't fight in that final battle, which is very strange is very weird, right? Yeah.
Ansel Burch 47:00
I was kind of hoping that she would get Excalibur from her dad would have
Ben Silverio 47:05
been great. Yeah. Or even if Kate Winslet Did you know, like,
Nicole Keating 47:08
yeah, that would be the I feel like that would be the appropriate thing. Because in the version of this movie that hangs together a little better. Black Knight would have been a little bit more of a through line, right. And so you could have
Ansel Burch 47:21
if I were directing this movie, The Black Knight would have entered the tournament. And one
Nicole Keating 47:26
in my memory. That's what happens. Oh, really? Is your memory. That's what happens.
Ansel Burch 47:32
So much better movie. It's a much better it is a much better wins her own fucking hand and the sword
Ben Silverio 47:37
which kind of happens but then Arthur's like, no, Calvin, you have the kingdom. What do you want to do with it? He's like, I want to go home.
Nicole Keating 47:45
He's like, Sarah.
Ben Silverio 47:48
Sarah, I barely know worse. Sarah
Nicole Keating 47:50
and Katie. What fucking?
Ansel Burch 47:54
Well, Catherine. They're both biblical.
Nicole Keating 47:56
I mean, they're both biblical. But they both also sound like the names that were the most popular. Oh, in the ad for sure.
Ansel Burch 48:04
One of them is the actual name of the other actress. That's true.
Nicole Keating 48:08
I know. I know.
Ansel Burch 48:10
Also, fun fact, I learned from IMDB. The actress who played Katherine is older than Kate Winslet.
Nicole Keating 48:19
Interesting. I knew that
Ansel Burch 48:22
there was a five year age gap between her and
Ben Silverio 48:26
wow.
Nicole Keating 48:28
Calvin Calvin. Yeah, okay. I thought you meant between her and Kate Winslet. I
Ansel Burch 48:31
was like, no, no, here's five months between her and quit. Kate Winslet love Kate Winslet so much. And she does look a lot younger. So it passes. But yeah.
Nicole Keating 48:41
And one of my favorite moments, obviously, is the Black Knight pulling the helmet off and reveal I am no woman. Exactly, exactly. One of the proposed names I have to say if I have children, because I don't want to jinx it. One of the proposed names that Dave said for a potential baby is a a win. And I was like, both Yes. But also they'll get me. I love you for proposing that. I love you so much for proposing.
Ben Silverio 49:14
Yeah, middle name.
Nicole Keating 49:16
We have to be like Maria Maria, Mary, some kind of if women in our family have in the middle name.
Ansel Burch 49:23
I mean, that's a good first name.
Nicole Keating 49:25
Mary. Yeah, Mary Ellen. She sounds like a Mary Ellen. Mary. Mary,
Ben Silverio 49:31
Mary Ellen. Before my grandfather passed away. I let him know that if I ever had a kid, particularly a boy, but I'm sure this will work for either a boy or girl. Their middle name will be his middle name, which was fiesta. No, literally party is there.
Ansel Burch 49:54
That's so good. It's so good. Yeah, that's phenomenal.
Nicole Keating 49:58
Yeah, I mean, in anything else in our reviews, I took a lot of notes y'all so many of these are just Kate Winslet spelled different ways with hearts. Kate
Ben Silverio 50:19
another one Oh, I got something. Yes, yes. I hope that Calvin paid the blacksmiths fairly. I think he probably because he utilized the blacksmith a lot. That blacksmith is
Nicole Keating 50:31
really, I mean, very innovative and very, like willing to roll with the punches. Like, absolutely, I'll take on this new idea.
Ben Silverio 50:40
What did he use for those wheels for the Rollerblade? Like,
Nicole Keating 50:42
can you imagine coming up to a good look just like being like, design this for me right now and then being like, I don't have any of this technology, and you're like, do it anyway. And then that Etsy creator is just does it right.
Ansel Burch 50:56
I feel like he was the king's blacksmith.
Nicole Keating 50:58
Why was he dressed like that then? Yeah, who fucking knows but like, because their costume budget was not Yes.
Ansel Burch 51:03
That was what was in the in the
Nicole Keating 51:07
their budget was nothing bananas. I think their budget was nothing I mean this
Ansel Burch 51:11
or they spent it all to get everybody to hunker.
Ben Silverio 51:15
That's probably what it was. I am
Nicole Keating 51:17
and I am very surprised that it filmed on location anywhere because it does really really look like a soundstage and some CGI backdrops and that's it. Like
Ansel Burch 51:27
Camelot is absolutely a matte painting. Just gonna say.
Nicole Keating 51:32
I thought it was like,
Ansel Burch 51:34
looks so hard like a matte paint.
Nicole Keating 51:36
I thought it was a green screen of like a foot like stock footage of a castle.
Ansel Burch 51:40
The well. Okay. Depends on which part you're talking about when they first come into Camelot. Yes, there's like a foreground set and then a matte painting. Yeah, find. But yeah, then there are other bits look like they were the very long Yeah, the long long shot. As he's coming in, running away from the nights
Nicole Keating 51:59
for some reason I thought the light was was a green screen with a CGI like,
Ansel Burch 52:05
I don't think they could have done the edges that well. Yeah, that's very true.
Nicole Keating 52:09
I'm not gonna go back and watch this movie for that small detail, but it's not worth it. I do like learning about the special effects because I feel like for me as an independent creator, the budget for these special effects is within my range now. And I feel like that is also exactly within my range of comedy. And therefore I always am like, what is what is this weird special effect that you use? That is both hilarious and have a certain time period?
Ben Silverio 52:39
Well, maybe you can make something this good or better for $15 million, which was their budget?
Ansel Burch 52:46
15 million. That's actually a lot more than Yeah, I mean, it was a feature. It was a feature release. Yeah,
Nicole Keating 52:54
I theaters. Kate Winslet
Ansel Burch 52:56
by the way. 19 Probably when this was filmed would have been 20 When it was released. How did we feel about the training scenes, which don't actually amount to a montage and never actually show him getting good at anything, anything. I appreciate that later in the movie. We're supposed to understand that he has gotten good at these things somehow, but we I don't
Nicole Keating 53:19
I honestly don't know that he's ever actually good at them. I think he just gets more confident
Ansel Burch 53:23
he unforced his Blasco,
Ben Silverio 53:25
but that's just like confidence. I think it is
Nicole Keating 53:28
it unhorsed him with the power of confidence. Absolutely. But no, seriously, it is
Ben Silverio 53:33
or things it is
Nicole Keating 53:34
it is the ability to I mean, he's in this really heavy armor. He's obviously much smaller than the armor so this is giving him some weight sticking to the saddle, not super glue. That's not how soon
Ansel Burch 53:49
he did continue wearing those pants for the rest.
Ben Silverio 53:56
I have questions. It took him forever to get medieval garb.
Ansel Burch 54:00
Why? Why hypothetically he never got medieval garb. He put a coat cloak on over his baseball uniform.
Ben Silverio 54:07
No, he wasn't wearing his baseball uniform at a tournament.
Ansel Burch 54:11
That's true. Yeah, that's true. He got a little tunic thing.
Nicole Keating 54:15
I said tunic with a liquid you because I'm Shakespearean dreams. That's right. Thank you. You're welcome.
Ben Silverio 54:22
Pause recite some of your favorite Shakespeare. Me, both of
Nicole Keating 54:27
you. Because I couldn't I couldn't. I couldn't tell if you were looking at him or me.
Ansel Burch 54:33
You're both better at this than I am. My favorite or the one I can actually recite. Probably recite. That's
Ben Silverio 54:39
probably the better
Nicole Keating 54:44
he was looking at me as if you expect. Do I have a monologue prepared?
Ben Silverio 54:49
I do audition. Gallop apace.
Nicole Keating 54:51
You fiery footed Steve's towards Phoebus lodging where something else happens and then Romeo comes in pucks knee
Ansel Burch 55:00
Ah, yeah, that's yeah, that works. Thank you. Oh God, why does it start? FeiFei on all fall. All fell masters and off. It's from a Taming of the Shrew gremio
Ben Silverio 55:23
I bring this letter because almost all of my friends in Chicago have a Shakespeare, average Shakespearean background. I mean, yeah, you, I managed to fall into this friend group that has a ton of Shakespeare,
Nicole Keating 55:36
I will give you some time to think of your mono. But to think of your audition monologues, to say that one of my dreams has always been to film a very Hollow Crown style, historically accurate version of Shakespeare's plays, interest, as well as something that I'm thinking about doing in the next couple of years is Shakespeare plays as web series, where we basically release a scene a week or an act a week. And I just know that I have, like, I've literally I'm like, I could literally just post this on Facebook and be like, who wants to be involved?
Ben Silverio 56:16
Um, that was totally The Lizzie Bennet Diaries. Back in the day on YouTube. Yes, I
Nicole Keating 56:24
only I think I only watched one episode of that.
Ben Silverio 56:27
I didn't watch the entire thing. But that was totally the fuel that I got from it, you know, that they were just going through with all of all of that. But one of my dreams was to adapt a Shakespearean play in the tone of 90s teen movies, because like, people aren't really doing that anymore. Like 10 things. Exactly.
Nicole Keating 56:48
And clueless. Oh, wait, what guess well, Emma, but sure literature. Yeah.
Ben Silverio 56:52
But like, whatever it takes and get over it. And there were so many Shakespearean adaptations. I see that in theaters, because it's great. But I wanted to take one of Shakespeare's plays and do that with them. But like, I haven't found the right Shakespearean play that speaks to me. He's that way yet. And
Ansel Burch 57:18
action was five five on all foul Jade's on all mad masters and all foul ways was ever a man so beaten, was ever a man so raid was ever a man so weary. I'm sent before to fetch the something
Nicole Keating 57:34
taxed open. That's not fair.
Ansel Burch 57:36
I know is like right. I needed the word I needed. I needed shades. That was the word I couldn't remember. But yeah, I was sent before to fetch a pot and there they are coming after to warm them. And then he talks about how he's real short and so he'll warm up quickly, but still fuck those guys. I used to forget the opening of act for I used
Ben Silverio 58:00
to forget my monologues immediately after I would say them. I was terrible.
Ansel Burch 58:04
Oh, man, I was not Shakespeare is one of those things that like acting class, we had
Ben Silverio 58:09
to scream. Yeah, it was part of our curriculum because we needed to be well rounded screenwriters. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. So we took acting and directing and camera and all of that stuff makes sense. I appreciate it now. But at the time, I was just like, This is bullshit that we have to take Arkansas History.
Nicole Keating 58:28
I have I sort of the reverse experience where I'm like, Why do you have to take fucking stagecraft I hate this. But I did like sage crap. I know how to use a drill now.
Ben Silverio 58:40
Oh my god. I was in a bad boy. Doing stage crew beautiful. I crafted his like his his hollow the big rock that he likes. It's It was
Nicole Keating 58:53
no bad boy. The music? Oh, it's fine. That was after I was already jaded.
Ben Silverio 58:57
Fair enough about musical theater.
Ansel Burch 59:00
Okay, anything else about the middle of the movie? Do we want to talk about? Oh, bicycling, picnicking, and
Nicole Keating 59:07
yes, I mean, there's so many plot things that happen but they all pass. What else have you got in your notes? Lee? Oh, my goodness. I mean, all of these are just like, Kate Winslet heart heart heart, obviously. But uh, we already said Lord Glasgow actually asks for consent, which is hilarious. Creeper. He's still creep.
Ben Silverio 59:30
Is he like the only person of color in that whole court is what is his? I didn't look it up because I didn't think about it. But I thought he was. I mean,
Ansel Burch 59:40
the actor probably is he's not coded.
Nicole Keating 59:43
To me. He just looks Italian so I don't know that's
Ben Silverio 59:45
true. He's probably just I am.
Nicole Keating 59:48
I also thought maybe Katie Paloma. Paloma sounds a Spanish to me.
Ansel Burch 59:53
Sure. It is interesting, though, that he's not really asking consent so much as he is demanding or quid pro quo.
Nicole Keating 1:00:00
That's true that a quid pro quo. That is very true. I was just it was interesting that he used the word consent did yeah. How am I ever on the opposite end of the spectrum? Calvin does kiss Katie without consent the first time
Ben Silverio 1:00:15
does
Nicole Keating 1:00:17
not cool Cal even though you're from the future, you're from the 90s future where we didn't really talk about that. Yeah, true. And King Arthur, when he comes to terms with everything that's happened thus far. He. He also tries to instill some equalities.
Ansel Burch 1:00:42
His big reform is that anyone who's not a royal blood can join the tournament, you can also die. Of which one dude is like, yeah.
Nicole Keating 1:00:54
It's me. I'm glad that the people in the jail stopped actually dead as you have confirmed to me they're just very heavy that we know. And again, if I ever have a child, my pregnancy I intend to be carried around upon a cart at any time. Make sense?
Ansel Burch 1:01:11
Well, pollen queen. Yes.
Ben Silverio 1:01:15
We do. Well, now we do. But we should acknowledge Joss acklins connection to our podcast. Because King Arthur Yeah. King Arthur was in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey.
Ansel Burch 1:01:33
That's right. Yeah.
Ben Silverio 1:01:35
He played the villain out of us.
Nicole Keating 1:01:38
Every time you say acknowledge this connection to our podcast, I think that like, oh, like we've met him.
Ben Silverio 1:01:44
No, no, but he said, but do you know what else he was in? No, my ducks. Wait, whose hands? Are you fucking kidding me? I was Hans
Nicole Keating 1:02:01
Nikolas having emotions. I know this is not a visual format. So you can't see it. The amount of emotions might ease knees just went through. But Hans is one of my favorite Mighty Ducks characters, other than fucking Goldberg and Julie's a cat Gaffney.
Ben Silverio 1:02:18
Hey, Nora Goldberg is from Philadelphia, Philadelphia. How could we have good character? Because he was a florist?
Nicole Keating 1:02:26
Yeah. I was just checking because sometimes we use actor and they're interchangeably. Another one of my notes was I love Game of Thrones. Daniel Craig's symbol as the unicorn because the unicorn horn is his penis.
Ansel Burch 1:02:45
Ah, plasma.
Ben Silverio 1:02:49
bed while Blanc,
Nicole Keating 1:02:50
you bastard. Benoit balls, you've asked her and
Ben Silverio 1:02:53
I had a note about Calvin saying, I watched a lot of CNN.
Nicole Keating 1:02:59
I had that notice. Well, watching CNN did. mark, exclamation point. Question.
Ansel Burch 1:03:06
How is that relevant to this data have
Ben Silverio 1:03:08
a lot of medieval programming in the 90s? Was that what was CNN like in the 90s? Ansel?
Ansel Burch 1:03:15
I don't remember I didn't watch a lot of CNN in the night even though the earliest I watched CNN was when all you could get was like the fixed camera footage of like Congress.
Ben Silverio 1:03:26
Literally I asked Ansel all these questions because he Oh,
Ansel Burch 1:03:29
time traveler. Yes.
Nicole Keating 1:03:31
I have. I don't think I have ever watched CNN. Why would I watch CNN? I get my news from other sources. I
Ansel Burch 1:03:39
can't remember what it was there was something going on in Congress. And it was one of those things where it was like they showed like the live Yeah, it was like what is going on? And the only way you could watch the live footage was on CNN was and it was filibuster
Nicole Keating 1:03:51
that Elizabeth Warren did and her sneakers.
Ansel Burch 1:03:54
No, I don't think I would have watched that it might have been. I feel like it was when I was in college. So it would have probably been something to do with Bush doing something stupid. And I saw going oh, God, what are they going to do about this sort of thing?
Nicole Keating 1:04:13
I don't remember how old anybody is. So I don't know. When? To the early 2000s.
Ansel Burch 1:04:19
Yeah. Oh, 4208
Ben Silverio 1:04:26
Yeah. All right. Well, party people. That has been a review of a kitten king of this court. Kinda. Yeah, that was that was kind of a review. We've Did you like it? Oh, yeah, that's the thing. After all these years, do you still like
Nicole Keating 1:04:43
oh, 100% I mean, I was fucking smiling. And like, I mean, I mentioned earlier I came from this to this from a true crime documentary, and I went to the true crime documentary after and this was just such a ray of sunshine thoroughly. When I palate was thoroughly cleansed, and I did forget to mention that the scene that I fully copied for my movie warrior Pope that I wrote in high school was the scene where she has to tell Kane that she's marrying Lord Glasgow. And it was literally line for line. Of course, I was the one playing the Caitlin's lip care course, with, you know, a couple of jokes thrown in other than the line for line. But I just loved how at the end of that scene, she's like, I must have met it, Lord malesko fucks off just yet doesn't wait for a response. This is the person she's in love with. She doesn't wait for a response just
Ansel Burch 1:05:42
I'm assuming you understand all of the things I'm dealing with fine.
Nicole Keating 1:05:46
I'm going to run and cry at the same time.
Ansel Burch 1:05:50
Mood Yeah,
Ben Silverio 1:05:52
big mood.
All right, party people. That has been your review of a kid in King Arthur's Court. Hope you can keep up. If you would like to check out the movie is on Disney plus, right now. Check it out. You can find this on the internet. I'm at visa barrier 20 on Instagram, Twitter, letterboxed hive. I think that's all of it for now. But who knows what the Twitter alternatives can get? Yeah.
Nicole Keating 1:06:25
I don't know half of those social media platforms. I am Nicole Keating and I am at the Fake Geek Girl spelled the Fake Geek Girl but with the ion girl as a number one on every single platform. Please find me on Patreon. I love your money. I don't have a job.
Ansel Burch 1:06:44
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Ben Silverio 1:07:07
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Ansel Burch 1:07:14
as well as time but number two party all spelled out.
Ben Silverio 1:07:18
Yes. And as Princess Sara says, Rose will prick you
Ansel Burch 1:07:24
are worse.
Ben Silverio 1:07:26
But at the same time phrasing Are we still doing
Ansel Burch 1:07:31
it's okay if we're not but I feel like somebody should have said
Ben Silverio 1:07:36
well we figure that out be excellent to each other
Ansel Burch 1:07:39
and party on there we go. What can I not think of what greet how greetings goes all of a sudden
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