A Kid In King Arthur’s Court: Part 3
Put on your best baseball uniform and leap into the time rift with Ben Silverio, Nicole Keating, and Ansel Burch. They’re pop culture observers/ zany podcasters/ excellent friends who have formed a council to discuss with you a film from cultural history, A Kid in King Arthur’s Court.
This is our edutainment episode covering topics that caught the fancies of our hosts. Nicole is giving in to the vibes of the movie and covering Renaissance Fairs. Ben, meanwhile leaned hard into the obscurity and bring us some tea on bubblegum.
Nicole Keating is @OGNicoleKeating on Twitter and IG.
Ben Silverio is @Bsilverio20 on Twitter and IG.
Ansel Burch is @Indecisionist on Twitter and @TheIndecisionist on IG.
Next week we’re reviewing the movie, and you don’t want to miss that do you? Make sure you’re subscribed because no matter where you are in the timestream, it’s #Time2Party.
Episode Transcript:
Ben Silverio 0:00
Hey, I'm Ben Silverio
Nicole Keating 0:06
I'm Nicole Keating.
Ansel Burch 0:07
I'm Ansel Burch
and it's Time to Party
Today's episode about a Kid in King Arthur's Court was recorded on December 18 2022. We are not doctors we don't give medical advice please, drink responsibly.
Nicole Keating 0:22
(singing) We just outed ourselves as disgusting theater kids and when we lose our way we just sing this song and find each other.
Ben Silverio 0:46
At least we didn't sing Rent, right?
Nicole Keating 0:48
Don't tempt me Frodo.
Ansel Burch 0:52
Wow, wow,
whoa. Oh party people.
It's episode three. We are six beers in along with some other stuff. has been a long night. Hopefully.
Ben Silverio 1:05
This is as entertaining as it seems
Ansel Burch 1:08
to us. sober me we'll find out in a few days hosting post Ansel.
Ben Silverio 1:13
Good luck. Godspeed.
Nicole Keating 1:16
I am actually remarkably sober for my usual
Ben Silverio 1:20
good.
Ansel Burch 1:20
Okay.
Ben Silverio 1:23
Quick check how much ABV was in that Fistmas?
Ansel Burch 1:28
I mean, not like six. Yeah. 6.5. All right. Now that
Nicole Keating 1:33
thing? Nailed it. Or as King Arthur says, nail him and
Ansel Burch 1:38
nail him.
Ben Silverio 1:39
Right? Yes, being a which. That is the movie that we've been covering all month. A Kid in King Arthur's Court with Nicole Keating. Yes, already sounds better than Chris brat.
Nicole Keating 1:58
Thank you. I really, really wish they would have cast me. Yeah. biggest regret in my life. I auditioned.
Ansel Burch 2:04
I hope everybody had a good Valentine's Day.
Nicole Keating 2:06
Yeah. Oh my goodness. It's so romantic. Just like this movie. This movie is really, really romantic.
Ansel Burch 2:13
If you're listening to this on release day, go get you that half price chocolate.
Nicole Keating 2:17
Yeah, please, please.
Ben Silverio 2:18
You deserve it.
Nicole Keating 2:20
It's still delicious after Valentine's Day.
Ansel Burch 2:22
That's right.
Ben Silverio 2:23
Absolutely. That's when I get it.
Ansel Burch 2:25
Fuck yeah.
Ben Silverio 2:29
I was gonna make a joke about gettin' it. But that's... escaped me. Anyway, welcome to the third episode of the month, which means it is our edutainment episode. I actually did the hand gesture that time.
Nicole Keating 2:46
Do it again. I missed it. edutainment. Oh, it's a lot like Pocahontas' Yeah.
Ansel Burch 2:54
I always thought it was an impression of the star that goes across and the more you know,
Nicole Keating 2:58
(singing) The more you know.
Ben Silverio 3:02
That's true. I also picture Reading Rainbow. You know,
Ansel Burch 3:06
that, as we all should.
Nicole Keating 3:08
I mentioned Reading Rainbow to my family and nobody knew what I was talking. Yeah. Including my mother. Who should have been
Ben Silverio 3:16
Who showed you a rainbow? probably.
Nicole Keating 3:17
No, I think I just probably watched it on TV on my own.
Ansel Burch 3:20
Wow. It's a national treasure. LeVar Burton Correct.
Nicole Keating 3:24
National Treasure, national treasure.
Ansel Burch 3:28
Are either of you listening to his podcast?
Ben Silverio 3:30
No.
Nicole Keating 3:31
What's his podcast?
Ansel Burch 3:32
It's called LeVar Burton reads. And it was just
Nicole Keating 3:36
he just reads
Ansel Burch 3:37
he just reads short stories.
Nicole Keating 3:39
That sounds like I probably should listen to it while I fall asleep like I should just like do like like, like what I do right before I fall asleep? Yeah,
Ansel Burch 3:46
absolutely. It's so soothing.
Ben Silverio 3:48
We've been talking about a kid in King Arthur's Court all month with the lovely the talented Nicole Keating.
Nicole Keating 3:54
Thank you I'm doing a curtsy in spirit
Ben Silverio 3:58
spirit. If you don't know what movies are about our good friends at IMDb say a little league player sent the back into medieval times where he was given the task of saving Camelot. You know as you do as a child the huge
Nicole Keating 4:15
my dream
Ben Silverio 4:16
Yeah, you know when you're riding bikes and going on picnics with your, your gal pal.
Nicole Keating 4:21
I still always wanted to be Kate Winslet aka The Black Knight aka truly saves Camelot. Look, we already did. You they will know. And if they don't know that they didn't fucking watch the movie in which case they didn't do their homework. I did my homework.
Ben Silverio 4:40
Correct. Right and this episode is our edutainment episode, where we like to go on a very shallow dive of information based on something that we found interesting in the movie, a piece of technology, an actor Something anything.
Ansel Burch 5:02
An excuse to talk about a thing that's on your mind separately.
Ben Silverio 5:07
What are some of the weirdest things we've covered Ansel?
Ansel Burch 5:10
I mean horse girls
Ben Silverio 5:11
horse girls, It was saddles.
Nicole Keating 5:13
This is this is
Ben Silverio 5:15
To be fair
Nicole Keating 5:15
this is a horse girl movie. Why was top of mind this is really a horse girl this is
Ben Silverio 5:21
such a horoscope movie
Nicole Keating 5:22
i So formative as as a certified horse girl.
Ansel Burch 5:27
The horse girl brought the horses to them as well. You don't know it at the time but
Ben Silverio 5:32
that's true, correct.
Nicole Keating 5:35
Oh, holy horse girl movie my entertainment topic. I went through many.
Ansel Burch 5:41
Oh, yes, tell us what you didn't pick.
Nicole Keating 5:44
So the first one I really thought of was a CD player. And that one was I took some some very thorough notes on the CD player until I realized that this was fucking boring as all shit. For example, they still exist. The first commercial release was in 1982. It was invented by James T. Russell, he invented the basic tech blah, blah, blah, CDs CDs are boring. However,
Ansel Burch 6:17
ooh, she's power pose. Not to get real.
Nicole Keating 6:20
No, It's a bisexual pose
Ansel Burch 6:21
bisexual pose. Oh, even more real.
Nicole Keating 6:25
I am now about to talk. Talk about something that I feel like Ansel is gonna correct me a lot about. We talked about this and
Ansel Burch 6:33
I will resist this then. I'm just gonna let you go.
Nicole Keating 6:37
I'm going to talk about renaissance fairs.
Ansel Burch 6:38
Oh, fuck yes. Love it. No. You will get no corrections.
Nicole Keating 6:43
Because this is a topic that I already know a lot about, obviously, because I've been attending the Renaissance Fair every single year of my life since I was 15. I'm 36. Now. So I have been attending the Renaissance Fair for 21 years, the i i would say 20 years because I 2022 pandemic area 2020 doesn't exist. We all get a free year, more than half of your life. But more than half of my life I have been attending the Renaissance Fair. So And at one point during this movie, I looked at all of this jousting and I said I love the renaissance fair. And of course please correct me if I'm wrong. As someone who has actually participated many, many times as a performer in the Renaissance Fair, both in the
Ben Silverio 7:28
modern day and in the original.
Ansel Burch 7:30
Yes, I can time travel to the original Renaissance, as well as Yeah,
Nicole Keating 7:35
not the original renaissance fair. The original renaissance.
Ansel Burch 7:38
Yeah, yeah. The original Renaissance Fair was just hippies in the woods.
Nicole Keating 7:42
Well, we're gonna talk about this. So there's it is it's very tied with hippies and hippies in the woods. The very first like sort of hints of it were this cultural resurgence of medieval folk music and medieval British British folk music. And there was a, a folk, musician and traditionalist. That makes it sounds like he's probably very fucking racist. And so it seems like maybe some of the very early origins of this are a little problematic.
Ansel Burch 8:28
This short sighted,
Nicole Keating 8:30
yes. short sighted for Yeah, sure. That's kind. This John Langstaff, John Langstaff, which sounds as about realistic as the names in this movie. And he did this little thing called a Christmas mask of traditional rebels. And so it was this very, like folksy little diddy in the middle of New York City. And it just really, very nicely dovetailed with this movement within music to go back to like these like very, or to combine these very folksy roots of Americana, with the Rock and Roll aesthetic such as the Bob Dylan's that would come along later in that decade, and in 1963, per, Wikipedia. Los Angeles School teacher Phyllis Patterson held the very small renaissance fair as a class activity. Now, this is very nice that Wikipedia gives her this credit, but there is no citation. So, who knows when the actual first full Renaissance Fair was, but the actual like official one that we can date is the one that you mentioned in the very first episode, the you said the initial so
Ansel Burch 10:12
the the, the Renaissance Pleasure Faire is what it's called currently
Nicole Keating 10:17
RPFS Renaissance Pleasure Faire of Southern California. And this was held in the spring of 1966. At the Paramount ranch, and this is something that's in California, obviously, Paramount. We can deduce what came after one of those very lovely film ranches in Southern California. Much like the place where the Manson family lived, because I have to make that I have to make this series... dark as what we have thus far. And the only thing is that, like, in my research, and by my research, I mean, scrolling through Wikipedia, and I did a little bit of I did a little bit of extra research on this Ren Faire. There's not a ton of history available on the internet, I feel like so much of this is an oral history. And so much of it is an oral history that people that we all know probably have as part of their, their their lore and their knowledge. And is there anything that you would like to add to the indecision?
Ansel Burch 11:38
I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna agree with you there that a lot of it is oral history, and a lot of it is oral history that no one can agree on. So if there's one thing you should know about Renaissance Faire performers, it's that we are passionate and tend towards cattiness I think as a as a people. So there's a lot of like, you know, well, okay, if you ask this person about how things went in 1996, they'll tell you what happened from their point of view. But if you ask a different person, it will be like a totally different story. Yeah, like, not not even like I have talked to somebody about okay, here, here locally. We have the Bristol Renaissance Fair, which was originally the king Richard's fair well, and
Nicole Keating 12:37
is also like one of the top renaissance fairs in the country,
Ansel Burch 12:41
right and voted number one in the country, mostly by Midwesterners so, so there's some bias.
Nicole Keating 12:50
Look, I think it's fucking fantastic. Like, literally every,
Ansel Burch 12:54
it's where I started my career. You know, it's, it's a phenomenal fair, it's a fantastic site. The cast is truly incredible. And it is, it has changed a lot over the pandemic years, it'll be very interesting to see how it goes. Anyway. All that being said and caveats when it was originally King Richard's fair. You know, the things happened, people did stuff and and eventually King Richard's fair had to be dissolved to become the Bristol renaissance fair. And if you ask two people how that went down, you will get two wildly different stories that feature different protagonists as the like main people who did the things that made it happen. So it is it is phenomenally challenging to get a clean idea of like, what happened in what order to which people to cause what to happen. So
Nicole Keating 13:50
it sounds exactly like the burlesque community. Yeah,
Ansel Burch 13:53
exactly. There's so much tea to spill. Um, there is a documentary that somebody put out recently a
Nicole Keating 14:02
fair people. That's way long ago
Ansel Burch 14:05
that yeah, there's, it's called fair, I think, an American Renaissance. Which is phenomenal, because it is it is attempting to document that history. But it means that you now have put on to film one version of this story, which the rest of the community is now going to try to refute immetiately,
Nicole Keating 14:30
renaissance fairs are just so that the history is so rich, and the current community is so rich.
Ansel Burch 14:38
Truely.
Nicole Keating 14:38
I feel like it deserves a little bit of play when this movie is obviously so much based on the historical anachronism that is the renaissance fair.
Ansel Burch 14:50
Yeah, it definitely feels like the people who wrote this probably were at least attendees at a renaissance fair. That's probably the extent of the research they did. You know they they watched a Ren Faire joust and went oh, that's how jesting works cool.
Nicole Keating 15:08
I wrote this movie when I was 17. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah,
Ansel Burch 15:13
I buy that. I buy that. So what else did you learn about renaissance fairs?
Nicole Keating 15:20
I mean,
Ansel Burch 15:20
Or did you have questions about renaissance fairs? That's,
Nicole Keating 15:23
that's a very good question. Because I honestly didn't learn anything more than I knew about renaissance fairs. The history is very slim. Unless I were to go like in a super deep dive, like my space style. Sure. I'm gonna read someone's old Zenga about their experience of Renaissance,
Ansel Burch 15:41
which you could absolutely do. I'm sure I could. There's a lot of that out there. But look, who's got cast,
Nicole Keating 15:47
but ain't nobody got
Ansel Burch 15:50
the Southern California Fair has moved a few times. It's now currently at a federal it's either a federal or a state park. Which is very interesting, because it means that the the original fair is a temporary fair, they can't leave any of the buildings up year round. And that's really one of the things that a lot of fairs kind of like look at as their that's the goal, right is like, eventually you want to be established enough that you have a place and you build the buildings and the buildings are there all year round, like Bristol, Pennsylvania, like Pennsylvania. Yeah, like Maryland, like Ohio, a lot of the big ones
Nicole Keating 16:28
me, I've been to Bristol and I went to a very small medieval fair in Quebec, in like a no name town in Quebec. That's just
Ansel Burch 16:38
over the border. Well, that must have been, that must have been great. It was very
Nicole Keating 16:41
interesting. I was 1415. And thought I knew French. So.
Ansel Burch 16:53
But I didn't know the stuff about John Langstaff. So that was really interesting.
Nicole Keating 16:56
And he's got and he's got like the, and I just, I think it's very interesting that it all came out of this idea of the folk music of this of, of like this, like, 60s, we're going back to like sort of the roots of like, like, all this acoustic music. There's not all this like other orchestration, it's just one guy with one instrument or one gal with one instrument.
Ben Silverio 17:22
And, anyway, here's Wonderwall.
Nicole Keating 17:25
Anyway, Wonderwall,
Ansel Burch 17:27
well, and it was in a lot of ways a response to a lot of the upheaval of the 60s and the, you know, the the sort of free love movement was somehow tied into that. So there's a lot of like Woodstock esque debauchery that happened around the early Renaissance. Barely.
Nicole Keating 17:43
And I mean, I don't know, is this telling too much tales out of school? I feel like there is a Venn diagram of the kink community in the run fair community. I know this as somebody who has been invited to perform at the Texas kinky, random fair, it was like, Oh, God, what was it called? There's like, there was like some... And this was like, at the very end of when I was producing Rude Tudors, the podcast, but we got invited to some like kinky Ren Faire in Texas. That's so cool. You're like, oh, yeah, we'll definitely perform. And my my co host was like, I'll definitely get down with the kinky stuff. And I was like, I'm so monogamous. I'm sorry. I'll, hang out. I'll look cute.
Ansel Burch 18:30
Did you go? No,
Nicole Keating 18:32
it ended up not happening. They actually had to cancel the thing for purposes. Oh, yeah. That's too bad. It was like right before COVID.
Ben Silverio 18:41
It was, Are they back? Are they up and running?
Nicole Keating 18:43
I don't know.
Ansel Burch 18:44
I mean, there are two big Ren fairs in in Texas. So I wouldn't be surprised if it was like an offshoot of one of those. It's very
Nicole Keating 18:50
possible. Yeah. And I don't know, maybe we'll get into it again. She has another idea for a different podcast for us to do. We stopped doing the podcast because she was working on her dissertation.
Ansel Burch 19:03
Like you do? Yeah.
Ben Silverio 19:05
I feel like there was a little bit more than a shallow dive. That was good. Yes. Very good.
Nicole Keating 19:10
We just, we just all had a lot of connections. Yeah. Connections, people opinions. How about you, Ben
Ben Silverio 19:17
Nicole mentioned that she was thinking about doing rollerblades.
Nicole Keating 19:21
Oh, you did rollerblades?
Ben Silverio 19:22
I thought about doing okay. All right. All right. I did not do rollerblades. I thought about doing training wheels. Okay,
Ansel Burch 19:31
because his bicycle did have weird his his bicycle with wooden tires by the way. Yes. That was so much of a
Ben Silverio 19:40
roller blade tires. Those were not wood.
Ansel Burch 19:43
Those were absolutely just rollerblade wheels. Right?
Nicole Keating 19:47
They were just stones shine down. Maybe
Ansel Burch 19:52
they look like plastic to me.
Ben Silverio 19:54
Look a little like rollerblade but maybe they
Ansel Burch 19:57
were meant to be stone that I bought By that,
Ben Silverio 20:01
well my third choice, whichever times go with what's the Big Mac?
Ansel Burch 20:09
Because he thought about that. He didn't make it wrong.
Ben Silverio 20:13
He decided to make a Big Mac for Katie
Ansel Burch 20:16
incorrectly
Ben Silverio 20:17
incorrectly.
First of all of all the burgers make, the Big Mac? Bro, it doesn't even have bacon.
Ansel Burch 20:27
Right.
Ben Silverio 20:29
Clearly they had pigs available.
Ansel Burch 20:31
Yeah, yeah.
Ben Silverio 20:33
But what I actually went with was bubblegum. Okay, all right. So something I never thought of before, even though it's a no brainer is that there is a difference between chewing gum and bubblegum? Sure, there are two different things which I mean like, yeah, when I say it out loud, it makes sense. But like I never really considered
Nicole Keating 20:59
No, I actually I actually don't know this.
Ansel Burch 21:02
I assumed it was like a mild change in formulation. Is it like struts? hugely different.
Ben Silverio 21:07
I mean, the time periods in which they happen are hugely different. Oh interest, so chewing gum dates back to the Neolithic period. 5000 year old very.
Nicole Keating 21:19
Okay. Birch bark tar
Ben Silverio 21:21
with tooth imprints has been found in Curie key. Finland stuck
Ansel Burch 21:28
under a desk probably.
Ben Silverio 21:33
The tar from which the gums were made is believed to have antiseptic properties and other medical benefits. So that's what they use chewing gum for initially, the Mayans, the Aztecs and the Greeks all had their own version of chewing gum, which would be for a number of different things for interesting adhesive. Sure, yeah. Or a way to maintain oral health? Uh huh. But bubblegum, as we know it today, was invented in 1928 by Walter II Diemer, an accountant for the FLIR chewing gum company in Philadelphia.
Nicole Keating 22:17
Ah, there it is there.
Ansel Burch 22:22
I don't know that you're gonna get it through the podcast. So I want you to understand the look of pure glee. That came over Ben's face when he got to say
Ben Silverio 22:31
that honestly, when I found out I was like, Yeah, obvious luck. Yeah, it's got to be this W E Diemer. The Wii Diemer. The Wii Baby D was experimenting recipes for new GM bass, and he accidentally created
Ansel Burch 22:46
wobble in your lane. You're an accountant.
Ben Silverio 22:49
Why was this dude doing so much extra shit after hours? Well, what he was doing was riffing on a chewing gum recipe created by his boss, Frank Henry FLIR in 1906. Killed ever guess this? What was bubble governor's originally called?
Nicole Keating 23:07
Um, NOM NOM NOM NOM
Ansel Burch 23:11
NOM NOM extra chewing gum.
Ben Silverio 23:14
It was called belieber blubber
Nicole Keating 23:18
Flubber
Ben Silverio 23:24
Oh,
Nicole Keating 23:25
wow. It takes a lot to break.
Ansel Burch 23:28
What you say she
Nicole Keating 23:29
is a professional
Ansel Burch 23:30
1906 1906 man.
Ben Silverio 23:34
And the thing that separated a long time to invent TV.
Nicole Keating 23:38
It did. It really did. I'm glad we have TV.
Ben Silverio 23:42
Yeah, blubber blubber was originally a type of chewing gum. That that was less sticky and stretched more easily than your readily available chewing gum. Sure, but Demers gum was dubbed double bubble. Oh, son,
Ansel Burch 24:06
so did people start blowing bubbles in their blubber? blubber and
Ben Silverio 24:11
no, okay. Not that I not that I've seen. Okay. It wasn't until the double bubble, that the bubble blowing really happened because Deemer would teach his salespeople how to blow bubbles so they could better demonstrate the product. And what year was that? 1928 Okay, okay, yeah, so his testing of the product was he took like five pounds of this bubble gum and took it to local Philadelphia grocery stores and sold out immediately. Wow, see that? Yeah, people want this shit.
Nicole Keating 24:50
I must have tasted really good.
Ansel Burch 24:52
Probably did it probably
Nicole Keating 24:54
do you think it was like like the bubble gum?
Ansel Burch 24:56
I mean, it would have been like real sugar and actual fruit and shit. So like I thought it was really,
Nicole Keating 25:01
really good.
Ben Silverio 25:03
Interestingly enough, the tastes was not something I found much research on, but the color. Oh, the reason why Bubblegum is pink is because that was the only food coloring available in the factory at the time when he discovered it. And originally it was a dingy gray color, even like that, so he mixed in some red dye and it turned out to be pink. That's an improvement. So double bubble still maintains that pink color with the yellow wrapper, because the yellow wrapper was what he used back then when he sold out how cute. So double bubble was actually the only bubble gum company in the country until after World War Two. That's when the TOPS company of Brooklyn began wrapping their gum in comics and calling it
Nicole Keating 25:59
Ah, yes. Yeah.
Ansel Burch 26:03
Well, and then baseball cards,
Ben Silverio 26:05
Right exactly. Baseball cards and all that stuff started to come with GM after Oh, it
Ansel Burch 26:09
did. Okay. Was because tops was the the baseball card companies.
Nicole Keating 26:12
Well, you're talking to me about baseball, which is my least favorite sports.
Ansel Burch 26:16
The only thing I know covered.
Ben Silverio 26:19
When I was younger, I had tops basketball cards. Sure. So I remember having some Chicago Bulls cards because back in the 90s the Chicago Bulls were ever the best. Pretty much I mean, look at them now though. Not great.
Ansel Burch 26:35
But it's safer not to
Ben Silverio 26:37
write. The last thing though, was that Deemer was never paid royalties for creating bubble gum.
Ansel Burch 26:46
However, just did this on his accountant salary.
Ben Silverio 26:49
Basically, Jesus, he didn't negotiate some better pay or anything, even though he did go on to like run the company. Oh,
Nicole Keating 26:57
I'm glad he did that. So this is not as sad as episodes about getting where we got really depressing. This isn't a little bit of a happy ending. eventually dies but a bubble gum. Turns out,
Ben Silverio 27:19
yeah, who know but yes, he did in his career on a high note with the FLIR company. But even though he didn't receive any royalties from his creation, he received hundreds of letters from children, thanking him for bubblegum, according to his wife,
Nicole Keating 27:41
and like Willy Wonka rarely
Ben Silverio 27:44
cheated himself. He would invite groups of children to the house and tell them about the invention and preside over bubble blowing contests.
Nicole Keating 27:56
That sounds crazy. I was gonna say, you lost me at the beginning.
Ben Silverio 27:59
But you know, he was incredibly proud. And he would say I've done something with my life. I've made kids around the world happy. He died at the age of 93.
Ansel Burch 28:13
Oh, okay. So he wanted life A plus nine. He beat the
Ben Silverio 28:17
game 98 was when he does a plus good for you.
Ansel Burch 28:21
That's a good year in Lancaster,
Ben Silverio 28:23
Pennsylvania. Which is near was he Amish Philadelphia, which is near the Pennsylvania Renaissance. Yes. Tying it
Ansel Burch 28:32
all the way around. Oh,
Nicole Keating 28:34
wow. Benjamin.
Ben Silverio 28:42
Tell them I have numerous beers.
Ansel Burch 28:45
But you can also tell you did your research.
Nicole Keating 28:48
You've been doing this podcast. I try.
Ansel Burch 28:54
Wow, okay, learn something I did. I did something. I didn't think I needed to know
Nicole Keating 28:59
things today. I'm so happy about this. Oh, wow.
Ansel Burch 29:04
I just I I'm just blown away by the concept of like inventing the thing and somehow coming to the conclusion of the bubble blowing like that seems like such a huge intuitive leap for me.
Nicole Keating 29:16
Right? Yeah. Like how do you get to like,
Ansel Burch 29:20
I mean, I guess people pop their gum right like that's the thing people do love to do it. So maybe like that was the origin was like people were already doing this. He was just chewing
Ben Silverio 29:29
it need somehow. How Alas, that's happening.
Ansel Burch 29:33
Sorry, Chicago reference. But yeah, so maybe he was a gum proper lips. Yeah. And then and then he was and you said that their their gum hurt. his boss's gum was special for being more elastic. Right? But it wasn't quite as wasn't bubbly. Yeah, exactly. But like why would why would more elastic or stretchy Why'd more stretchy be a selling point? Unless you're already popping your gum? Exactly. So this is already a behavior that's in the zeitgeist. Okay, I figured it out.
Nicole Keating 30:09
I think it's just that everybody from the beginning of time, like, we all are crazy, we all have oral fixations. And so there are people who just want to like, then not chew the gum, myself included. And then just like blood, like the bubbles is just like, like blowing the bubbles is just something that is if it's available to you, and if you figure it out, like oh, yeah, this is fun.
Ben Silverio 30:32
That's finger blew my mind the most was that chewing gum and bubble gum are separate.
Nicole Keating 30:37
That did that. That is a very I
Ben Silverio 30:39
didn't even think about it ever. And like I can't I mean that constantly, but usually when I get gum, it's orbit. You know, an orbit is not a bubble gum. No. Chewing gum. Yeah. And it never occurred to me to separate them. You know? Like, like those fruit stripes. Oh, I love for arms are chewing gum zebra. Yeah, they're chewing gum, not bubblegum. Yeah, you don't see people blowing bubbles with for different stripes. But
Nicole Keating 31:08
I tried. I shoved so many flavors in my mouth. You can
Ansel Burch 31:14
get that like 40 pack of fruit stripes or whatever it was the like, Rainbow Oh, yeah, like just a wad of gum and a lot of potential sticky leftovers to do that.
Nicole Keating 31:26
I was at my friend's office the other day and they make a double bubble like the super bubble like, full like, this is just like a little bit of bubble gum. I took like eight of those was like and then my jaw gets sore. When I was in really high school. Somebody told me that if you choose will you get better at blow jobs. Dry Did you well.
Ansel Burch 31:54
I'm proud of your tenacity on that.
Nicole Keating 31:57
Thank you. I think the conclusion of this episode is that sometimes I'm a sloth this specific episode this specific the arc arc, my structure of the four episode arc.
Ben Silverio 32:14
bump bump up.
Ansel Burch 32:16
This has been a great conversation where can people get in on that conversation?
Ben Silverio 32:20
You can find us on the internet. I'm at B Silveira 20 on Instagram, Twitter, Hive letterbox carrier pigeon.
Ansel Burch 32:31
Yep, they know where to find him.
Nicole Keating 32:34
Pigeons are very talented. Ah, and I mean outside of pigeons. I didn't understand any of the social media platforms that you've said outside of the major ones. I am Nicole Keating and I am at the Fake Geek Girl on every platform. That is the Fake Geek Girl spelled like it sounds except the I in girl is a number one because I'm number
Ansel Burch 33:01
one. First one,
Nicole Keating 33:05
mela means money. I'm number one nice.
Ansel Burch 33:09
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Ben Silverio 33:31
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Ansel Burch 33:38
as well as time the number to party all spelled out.
Ben Silverio 33:41
Who we did it,
Ansel Burch 33:42
folks, we did it. We maybe
Ben Silverio 33:44
made it or at the end we went through
Ansel Burch 33:49
there's courts. We've been down the slip and slide of doom. We went back
Ben Silverio 33:52
to receita. And suddenly we're back in Chicago.
Nicole Keating 34:00
I would rather be in Chicago than receita.
Ben Silverio 34:02
I would absolutely. Absolutely. Really. Yeah.
Ansel Burch 34:08
To go back there.
Ben Silverio 34:10
I mean, not close to the neck. Yes, God I'm so sick of the winter.
Nicole Keating 34:18
But it's only if I can live in the trendiest neighborhood of Los Angeles. What is the trendiest neighborhood of Los Angeles? I've never been
Ansel Burch 34:25
I mean, it's actually outside of Los Angeles.
Ben Silverio 34:28
Is it? What is? Silverlake is are you kidding? Silver Lake is so trendy. Oh, do you not like Silver Lake? I do not like so of course you don't because it's not historically accurate to your time period. Yeah,
Ansel Burch 34:41
that's exactly it. No, I
Ben Silverio 34:43
Silver Lake is a bit bougie for sure. I mean, Santa Monica was nice, but now it's it's overpriced. Impossible to live in under my budget. I can't believe I lived there before
Nicole Keating 34:55
I heard West Hollywood is trendy. Sure is that like Wicker Park.
Ben Silverio 35:01
Um, younger. I think West Hollywood is a little younger than Wicker Park. But I feel like the area where I'm looking to settle is Burbank, and I feel like that is a little bit closer to Wicker Park.
Nicole Keating 35:16
Yeah, yeah. Cool. Yeah, cuz I, I would love to move to SoCal, but I don't want to do it before I'm part of sag. Not before I'm part of
Ben Silverio 35:28
it and then become partisan. No, no, no reverse
Nicole Keating 35:31
so hard. No, no reverse. I'm becoming part of sag before I moved to
Ben Silverio 35:36
enough. Yeah. Plenty of opportunities.
Nicole Keating 35:39
Oh, yeah. I mean, my dream within the next like two years is to get killed by Leonardo DiCaprio in the Devil in the White City adaptation? Because I assume he's gonna be the HH Holmes. Who else would
Ben Silverio 35:54
Perfect? Well, we've come to the end of this month. Hopefully you've enjoyed our conversations about a kitten care of this court. Hopefully you've learned something. Maybe? Possibly. If not, that's on you. That's certainly you. We can recovered a lot of stuff.
Nicole Keating 36:14
And you should just like while watching this movie, you really will Google a million things. That's true.
Ben Silverio 36:20
Yeah, like, oh, Daniel Craig was in this.
Ansel Burch 36:23
What are the rules of jousting?
Nicole Keating 36:27
When did Bell sleeves be invented?
Ben Silverio 36:31
Rule roll. What's the deal with rollerblades anyway?
Ansel Burch 36:35
wouldn't need wheels on a bicycle. Wouldn't that just shake your pelvis depart?
Ben Silverio 36:40
I'm sure Lord Blasco had his pelvis broken
Nicole Keating 36:42
way I only know him as Lord elastic.
Ben Silverio 36:47
I mean, he got kicked
Ansel Burch 36:48
directly Yeah, when? When his business got kicked all the way up into his abdomen. I'm
Ben Silverio 36:52
surprised that that Calvin wasn't kicking.
Ansel Burch 36:57
That didn't seem to be his successful moves. I really thought they were said anyway but get
Ben Silverio 37:02
party people while you're kicking dicks be excellent to each other and
Nicole Keating 37:07
party on dudes
Ansel Burch 37:14
this song in my head is my back she died while she was making
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