A Kid in King Arthur’s Court: Part 4
Put on your best baseball uniform and leap into the time rift with Ben Silverio, Nicole Keating, and Ansel Burch. They’re pop culture observers/ zany podcasters/ excellent friends who have formed a council to discuss with you a film from cultural history, A Kid in King Arthur’s Court.
It’s time for a little treat here at the end of the month. It’s our bonus episode crafted from all of the weird digressions and tangents that we went on during the recording. As with any time you get good friends into a room, we talked about our lives, our friends, and the neat stuff we’ve done in the past. Welcome to that.
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Episode Transcript:
Ben Silverio 0:05
Hey, I'm Ben Silverio
Nicole Keating 0:06
I'm Nicole Keating.
Ansel Burch 0:07
And I'm Ansel Burch. And
Ben Silverio 0:08
it's Time 2 Party
Ansel Burch 0:12
Today's episode about kid and King Arthur's Court was recorded on December 18 2022. We are not doctors we don't give medical advice. Please drink responsibly. This is our special bonus episode for a Kid in King Arthur's Court made up of all of the weird digression, side tangents and bloopers that happened during our recording. I hope you enjoy it. It's gonna be weird.
Nicole Keating 0:33
This is very much more Renaissance, but it fits.
Ansel Burch 0:37
I mean, considering the costuming of the movie that's not inaccurate.
Nicole Keating 0:41
The historical anachronism shall we say.
Ben Silverio 0:45
or madrigals? Is that what's going on
Ansel Burch 0:46
now? Yep, that's what's happening.
Ben Silverio 0:48
Are we imaginable podcast now?
Ansel Burch 0:54
I think we covered all of it.
Ben Silverio 0:54
I think we've covered a lot of it. You're gonna have some fun and post. I'm gonna Yeah, it wasn't a
Nicole Keating 0:59
There were a lot of tangents.
Ben Silverio 1:01
So much.
Ansel Burch 1:01
Episode Four is gonna be rich.
Ben Silverio 1:03
Absolutely.
Ansel Burch 1:06
Way less than the second one to a disappointing degree. Yeah, but that same concept. Yeah. So they use it a
Ben Silverio 1:11
lot in the end game. Ah, yes, yes. But yeah,
Ansel Burch 1:16
yeah, basically the UV excites the particles in the phosphorus and this is
Ben Silverio 1:21
my way of saying that I just found out that my shirt glows in the dark. Oh, this I had no idea until I turned the lights
Ansel Burch 1:27
off in the back. Is it was that is it that you're not in the dark often enough or you're not in the light often enough to charge?
Ben Silverio 1:33
I think it's that I'm not in the light enough. Constantly dark when people aren't here.
Ansel Burch 1:40
These are probably non UV lights as well. Oh, yeah. That are most of them. I would suspect.
Ben Silverio 1:47
Probably.
Ansel Burch 1:49
Anyhow, you. Day true. I used to have a UV laser in my pockets. That's cool on the pipes. Oh, that's
Nicole Keating 1:58
very cool. No, I love science. I fucking love science. I like learning little tidbits like this. Especially if it's through friends and not through like
Ben Silverio 2:10
Ryan mockery is actually still aren't Colin. Still in those old timey episodes, too.
Nicole Keating 2:16
I have been watching the Murdoch Mysteries on acorn TV, which is a Canadian television murder mystery series. I absolutely love it. Colin mockery is a recurring villain. It is wonderful. Yes. A like, like one of his arch nemesis is the main guy.
Ansel Burch 2:32
That's amazing. I mean, wonderful. He is one of Canada's finest exports.
Nicole Keating 2:36
It's true. It's true
Ben Silverio 2:38
there. There was a great show on Amazon, which is based on a Japanese game show called laugh out loud. It's where a bunch of comedians enter a room and the last one. The remains that doesn't laugh wins a whole bunch of money for charity. That's wonderful. And like Jay Burchell is the host and Colin was on it with Dave Foley and a number of other Canadian comedians. So funny. It's hysterical.
Nicole Keating 3:08
I have six degrees of separation to Jay Baer show. Oh, yes. Because he was the one who did. What's the show where he was like looking for a girlfriend? Man seeking woman man seeking woman that's him, right? Yeah. So I went to college with Britt Lauer who played his sister on man seeking woman also any on the one that I could have just have there was everyone was just obsessed with white lotus. No, no. The Office one where they're like the office? No, no, no. Where they're, like brainwashed every day after work. And they forget what they're doing. severance. I was like, it's not succession. It's the other s one. Yeah, no, she was also on severance. We went to college together and did a few shows together. So I have I you know, I've also done a lot of television and stuff. So do you have several degrees of separation for most people? Anyway, that's cool. We'll see if I can do it with someone in this movie. Probably. Because speaking of old timey
Ansel Burch 4:11
we've already established you want to do it with someone in this movie. Well,
Ben Silverio 4:14
ah
Nicole Keating 4:15
Oh, yes. Actually at this point in time probably too. Yeah. At least to
Ansel Burch 4:25
you would be well marketed to at a renaissance fair.
Ben Silverio 4:27
It's been far too
Nicole Keating 4:28
long since I've been doing Renaissance I was just about to ask
Ben Silverio 4:33
Ben since I moved away from
Nicole Keating 4:35
Pennsylvania so you've never been to this one that all RP we should go we should go have events
Ben Silverio 4:39
and like rice I think it was one that talked about it. And then we
Nicole Keating 4:43
go every summer we'll just do we'll include you in the group chat. It'll be great. The Ren Faire group text
Ben Silverio 4:48
the summer that I won't be here for. Dammit. When are you leaving? Our lease is up in May May. Yeah.
Ansel Burch 4:56
When in May.
Ben Silverio 4:57
The end of May
Nicole Keating 5:00
Is there another one? There's
Ansel Burch 5:01
the Southern California pleasure fair. Oh, the original Renaissance.
Ben Silverio 5:05
Oh, well, if you guys want to take a flight out,
Ansel Burch 5:07
well, I mean, you could go. But it's over on Mother's Day. So I think you'll probably miss it. But there's another one in Northern California that starts up shortly thereafter that you could catch. There's one in I know too many restaurants fairs. That's not what the show is about. Moving on
Ben Silverio 5:25
work and I do have the connection of Pennsylvania Renaissance. He was a performer there.
Nicole Keating 5:31
His spoon and fork are over those are mine. Oh, those are your those aren't? Why do you both? Is this a match made in heaven? You both have giant silverware because I thought maybe he like gifted them because he moved already right. I thought maybe he gifted them to you. Here's your inheritance. My son is my Renaissance. They're very large fork and spoon.
Ben Silverio 5:52
My giant fork and spoon come from Filipino. Oh, cool. Yes. They typically hang in living rooms or dining room or no dining rooms or kitchens. With a picture of the Last Supper.
Nicole Keating 6:07
Yeah, I was about to ask what the significance is. I love that. I love that. I'm not quite the Last Supper here in the Silverio house, but it's kept shield is sure just as honorable you'd never
Ben Silverio 6:19
know he might have needed it to be a plate.
Nicole Keating 6:21
And look here. I I do a number as Captain America and my number this last weekend. I was Jesus. So this wall is really. Um, speaking of the things I did last this past weekend, this past Friday night. I drank. And so we should maybe do Was that a good segue? Did I do it? Right you guys. Take it. I'm working on my segways but I still feel like I'm working on my segues in the way Mitch Hedberg is working on his segues in that one Mitch Hedberg album.
Hello, I am really glad we're all on the same page because I believe that's also one of my notes.
Ansel Burch 7:10
I mean, he is the best American British guy. He's American. Alan today is yeah, he went to Julliard he did.
Nicole Keating 7:18
But Brits can go to Juilliard.
Ansel Burch 7:21
Sure, sure. I guess but but he is American you
Ben Silverio 7:23
can confirm have interviewed him spoken to him directly is American. That's so cool.
Nicole Keating 7:29
i Okay. I'm sorry. But I am going on Twitter tomorrow and starting the conspiracy theory that he's actually British. I mean,
Ansel Burch 7:35
totally. Because
Nicole Keating 7:37
I did not know that until just now.
Ben Silverio 7:40
A long time to realize that Gary Oldman was British.
Nicole Keating 7:44
He is a chameleon.
Ben Silverio 7:48
But I mean, that's a compliment to Alan Tudyk. Right. It really
Nicole Keating 7:50
is. I mean, they have the best education in the world. I think for theatre, sorry, Juilliard, but whatever. Um, I learned two new things today,
Ansel Burch 8:00
but would you learn how to make all of the animal sounds necessary to keep Disney going?
Ben Silverio 8:04
That was my favorite thing, because I found out he went to Juilliard in a Molana featurette. Yeah, where he's just making chicken noises and
Ansel Burch 8:11
then he turns to the camera and goes, I went to
Ben Silverio 8:17
Oh, my God, kooky Marilyn. Speaking of speaking of old Disney themes, I have to talk about this documentary that I watched on YouTube. Because it's fuckin wild,
Ansel Burch 8:33
and said about this movie.
Ben Silverio 8:35
It's not about this movie. I'm sorry for already going on tangent. Yeah, it's about the Disney Channel theme. The you know, with
Ansel Burch 8:46
actual, they steal that from somebody else. No,
Nicole Keating 8:49
I actually don't know, we didn't really have cable growing up. So I am not as familiar with the Disney Channel as most people scattered here. Sometimes we add a legal cable not on purpose. But your
Ben Silverio 9:00
dad is totally fair. It's on the YouTube channel, defunct land, which is a great YouTube channel if you love theme parks and theme park history. But I'm the creator behind defunct land has recently started to branch out into like more long form storytelling. And he decided that he wanted to uncover the composer of the Disney Channel theme, because it has largely been a mystery for a long time. So he had to do a lot of research going into this and everything but the documentary is really about like how you see yourself and how you create your art. Interesting, you know, it's it's very, it really hit me in a weird way. You know, but I mean, like, my colleague gets slashed film covered it in a wonderful article, talking about how how During the empathetic, this, this documentary is, it's available on YouTube for free, you should watch it. And even though you may not be interested in the idea of who wrote this, this jingle, because jingles on TV networks are a pretty common thing. But this one was such a mystery, that it required, like years of research to find out who did it. And it really goes into like, what does it mean to be an artist working in the medium you want to work in? And what legacy that leaves behind?
Nicole Keating 10:37
This is getting really, really deep in a podcast about a kid in King Arthur. True and you? You fought you fully sold me on it, please send me the link to it on how to send it to you. Because yeah, I mean, I under I understand that, like, yes, we're talking about this very micro thing. But we're also expanding out upon it to talk about this very macro thing. And, you know, kid in King Arthur's Court sort of did the same thing in a different way. Talking about this micro story of this one young man, it's really we're talking about the coming of age of us all. Yeah.
Ben Silverio 11:12
Okay. Yeah. My connection to the Chicago Cubs.
Nicole Keating 11:18
Ah, yeah. So deep. I
Ben Silverio 11:21
mean, me as a born race, Philadelphia, ah, yes. Comes from Back to the Future. Sure. So obviously, when 2015 rolled around, and they didn't win the World Series, I was very disappointed in them. And then they wanted in 2016, I was just like,
Nicole Keating 11:38
What the fuck guys, you're off. They were. They were a year off,
Ansel Burch 11:42
but they already changed his time.
Ben Silverio 11:45
That's exactly what I was gonna bring up because Doc Brown released a video in 2015 saying, time is fluid. So things can happen later. Like it's possible, you know. So it's not that they got it wrong. It's that you know, time was in flux. And I was just like, alright, Doc, I buy that. That's fine. The whole
Ansel Burch 12:06
movie is about retconning. So
Nicole Keating 12:08
true. I'm happy they addressed it.
Ansel Burch 12:12
I will say the the people of Back to the Future in general have been very good about the absolutely the legacy of that have
Ben Silverio 12:20
I talked about my encounter with with Christopher Lloyd on the podcast yet?
Ansel Burch 12:26
I don't believe you have, oh, my
Nicole Keating 12:28
god counterpart encountered Christopher Lloyd on this podcast,
Ben Silverio 12:31
not on the podcast. But if only If only my gods dream. But at New York Comic Con, at this point last year, right, because this is coming to me.
Nicole Keating 12:45
Right now,
Ben Silverio 12:47
the future is now but New York Comic Con last year, I decided to treat myself by buying meet and greets with Christopher Lloyd and Michael J. Fox. Oh, wow. So if you will direct your attention behind you above the bar, you'll notice that the first two Funko pops of Marty McFly and Doc Brown are signed? Oh, hell yeah. So I had them both sign those and they're both very different experiences. So Michael J. Fox, understandably has a very different system for signing stuff. Sure. With his Parkinson's, right. You know, he wants to get everything done as soon as possible, you know, as quickly as possible. So he has a team, feeding people in and feeding him the things to sign and you don't really get one on one time with Michael J. Fox, which I totally get Sure. And I even felt bad a little bit because I was just like, Fuck, he looks like he's in pain a little bit.
Ansel Burch 13:48
He has good days and bad days. Yeah,
Ben Silverio 13:50
he has good days and bad days. Right? So I was just like, Fuck, I'm contributing to this whole system. And I feel really bad when I was just like, Well, if he couldn't do it, he wouldn't have signed up for New York. Comicon. Yeah. And all the money that he was earning was being donated to the Michael J. Fox Foundation. That's wonderful. So I was doing some good by getting this funkopop autograph,
Ansel Burch 14:11
right. That is why he keeps doing why he keeps doing
Ben Silverio 14:14
it. Absolutely. Christopher Lloyd, on the other hand, was very hands on with meeting his fans. The table was very close. You could talk to him. You can you know, snap a picture of him signing your stuff. And I the first thing I said to him was like, Mr. Lloyd, your work in vector futures. One of the big reasons why I am who I am today. Thank you very much. Also, thank you for scaring the shit out of me in Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Nicole Keating 14:48
early, early terrifying memory. Absolutely.
Ansel Burch 14:52
My childhood trauma,
Ben Silverio 14:54
courtesy of he absolutely was tickled by both things when he was very nice and I got the It's signed by him and it was super cool.
Nicole Keating 15:03
And that's such a heartwarming story.
Ben Silverio 15:05
Yeah, he's super nice. I love Christopher Lloyd. And like, the way I looked at it was like, well, it's not very often that they do cons together. Mm hmm. And they're getting more few and far between as they get older. And Warwick was just like, you're not gonna have too many more opportunities, right? I'm like, That's a good point. So I shelled out the money and did it. And I think it was well worth it. Yeah, it was absolutely well worth it. Carpe
Nicole Keating 15:30
Diem fish of the day. Absolutely. Seize the fish. Seize the fish. Ah, well, let's
Ansel Burch 15:35
talk about this this movie.
Ben Silverio 15:39
Season the fish.
Nicole Keating 15:42
Can I ask are you on the IMDB right now?
Ben Silverio 15:46
I'm on the Wikipedia.
Nicole Keating 15:48
I would just like to know what came first this or Heavenly Creatures. As someone who has seen all of the Kate Winslet catalog Heavenly Creatures involves no time travel and all murder. Therefore we will never cover it on this show.
Ben Silverio 16:02
Heavenly Creatures came out in 1994 to before
Ansel Burch 16:06
so like right before?
Nicole Keating 16:07
Yeah, so probably filmed back to back almost good for her.
Ben Silverio 16:15
One thing I'd like to note that I did not know before doing research for this podcast was that there is a sequel to this movie, called a kid in Aladdin's palace.
Nicole Keating 16:27
No I
Ben Silverio 16:30
T 98 as a direct to video with Thomas Ian Nicholas reprising the role.
Nicole Keating 16:38
Here's my question. This sounds like it's racist interpretations. Like, I don't know if I want to expose myself to that.
Ben Silverio 16:54
Let's see. I don't recognize any of the names. But they do not sound like people of color.
Nicole Keating 17:04
In kid and let in Aladdin's palace, right.
Ansel Burch 17:08
Wow, she had a really busy mid 90s Quizlet. Yeah, because I know speaking
Ben Silverio 17:14
of Heavenly Creatures, one of the characters in a kid in the Latins Palace was Diana Kent. She played jasmine in that movie, but she was also in Heavenly Creatures, washing and Heavenly Creatures. Let's find out.
Ansel Burch 17:31
Angel number three.
Nicole Keating 17:32
Yeah. All right. It's not about that. It's about it's about murder.
Ben Silverio 17:35
Hilda Hume.
Nicole Keating 17:37
Oh, okay. She's the mom of Kate Winslet. Okay,
Ansel Burch 17:42
because this was the same year as Sense and Sensibility. Really 95 Another movie, and then in 96, Jude and Hamlet. Oh, God, I've seen all of these and Titanic.
Nicole Keating 17:55
Jude is so long and Kate Winslet much like myself loves being naked. And so she is naked in every single fucking movie as soon as she's one of your french girls. Exactly. So Jude she fully like didn't shave her pubes or her leg hair or her armpits to be to be historically accurate.
Ansel Burch 18:17
Good. That would explain why she followed up Titanic with hideous kinky. Oh, yes.
Nicole Keating 18:22
I've also seen hideous kinky. Uh, she pees on herself and that movie for real?
Ben Silverio 18:29
on herself. Yeah.
Nicole Keating 18:31
There's hideous kinky is about she was in a cult. And then a Oh, who's the one from the piano? Harvey?
Ansel Burch 18:41
Yam? No.
Ben Silverio 18:43
No, he would probably not.
Nicole Keating 18:45
Have you guys. It is hard. It is Harvey Keitel. Harvey Keitel plays a cult D programmer. And so he she's coming out of a cult. He's deprogramming her and at one point, she's having some sort of like psychological breakdown and she pees on herself. And from what I've read she did
Ansel Burch 19:04
it for real. Oh, so she she like wets her pants.
Nicole Keating 19:06
No, no, she's naked and pees on hers. Okay. Yes, yes. No. Yeah. Yeah. fully nude repeating herself. I love this woman. She is so should. She just she just can do she can do the very like traditional. I'm in Sense and Sensibility. I'm in Titanic, corset curls, beauty, beauty, beauty. And then she can also be like, looking past myself for the art. Like she's
Ansel Burch 19:34
within three years.
Nicole Keating 19:37
Also, I saw a preview screening of where the wild things are. Oh, no, what was the one direct? There was another one directed by Sam Mendes. It wasn't that one. But I saw a preview screening of a movie that he did. And I bumped into him with my butt accidentally at the end of the movie screening and I just I'd like a flirtatious glance with him. Because I was like, This is as close as I'll ever get. Professor was just a very, very old school academic who literally said to our class that nothing produced after 1900 had any relevance. And I was like, I fundamentally agree with this principle. I'm not going to get a good grade in this class. I love all of the material, but I'm dropping this class because I know I will get into fights with my like, Professor with my TA, and I just don't want to fucking deal with it. So I just took all these weird classes but one of the ones
Ansel Burch 20:37
agreed because of 1700 is the
Nicole Keating 20:40
1600 is actually my cut off. Maybe I'll give it 1650 Just to get a little bit a little bit of King James in there. But But no 1650 is absolutely my cut off. There you go. No Simpsons. No, nothing. Samsung, but the the the idea that the idea that any of this English language could actually happen between all of these people is something that is so mind boggling to me as like you read you read Shakespeare. They're not talking about Shakespeare. If this did happen, like you said, it would be so many more years earlier.
Ansel Burch 21:29
So many iterations of the language Yeah, so I mean, like But that said, like, none of that is relevant. This is a fantasy movie in which in which you know, a baseball player falls through a hole in the ground and so like that we can forgive all of this especially disbelief is strong.
Nicole Keating 21:44
Exactly. Tell us Thomas Ian Nicholas actually play baseball. Is that why I mean, he must if that was he is that way he was in both this and rookie of the year
Ben Silverio 21:52
I full disclosure. Thomas St. Nicholas was a client when I worked in Hollywood,
Nicole Keating 22:00
I thought you had a degree of degree of
Ben Silverio 22:03
separation with Thomas and Nicola Wonderful. So when I worked in Hollywood at the rain management group, he was a new client that we're bringing on. And as one of the interns, I worked his CD release show because he has a band. They're very good. They're very
Nicole Keating 22:22
multi talented, very talented, the top of his IMDb bio because I wanted to see if he was still working. The top of his bio is like, he just joined LIKE THE Producers Guild or some shit. And he also
Ben Silverio 22:33
has a new movie coming up. That sounds nice. I saw this is it a horror?
Nicole Keating 22:36
I think it is. A horror. Yeah. Cuz it was like, oh,
Ben Silverio 22:39
but the the movie that that got me of his most recently was that he played Walt Disney, a very young Walt Disney before that the opposite John heater who played Roy, and I was like, Oh, this is a very large departure for both of them. But they did it pretty well. Tom was a super nice guy. I encountered him later in life after I worked for his agent for our well his manager for a brief period. And he remembered me that night and us just super nice. He was a very nice dude. He's very talented.
Ansel Burch 23:14
Baseball is just American cricket.
Nicole Keating 23:16
Exactly. I don't know what it is about that structure. It just doesn't appeal to me.
Ansel Burch 23:21
It is a game designed to take forever to play. So you have an excuse to get sloshed and have a picnic.
Nicole Keating 23:30
I mean, the only thing I've ever done it really feel is get sloshed. Like
Ansel Burch 23:36
no British person that I ever hung out with was like, Ooh, yes, I watched the entirety of a cricket game. It riveted to the screen.
Nicole Keating 23:46
That's what happens in Midsomer Murders, Murdoch Mysteries. That's what happens in British mysteries. Like it's always cricket. Nobody in real life likes cricket.
Ansel Burch 23:58
Plenty of them like cricket. But nobody watches an entire cricket game. Like your present wild cricket is happening okay. Or, or cricket is on and then you know, whoever happens to notice that they're about to score goes through and everybody goes. And then you go back to drinking and talking like there's baseball. It's just baseball. Yeah. Baseball. Yeah.
Nicole Keating 24:22
We still never determined what the other team was called. Right?
Ansel Burch 24:26
No, no idea. No. Viggo Mortensen is the other horse girl I would throw in.
Ben Silverio 24:33
You can find this on the internet. I'm at B Silva. 20 on Instagram, Twitter, Hive letterbox carrier pigeon.
Ansel Burch 24:44
Yep, they know where to find him.
Nicole Keating 24:47
Pigeons are very talented. Ah, and I mean outside of pigeons. I didn't understand any of the social media platforms that you said outside of the major ones. I am Nicole kidding and I am at the Fake Geek Girl on every platform that is the Fake Geek Girl spelled like it sounds except the I in girl is a number one because I'm first one. mela means money. Number one.
Ansel Burch 25:21
I am at indecision just on Twitter and the Indecision is on Instagram Special thanks to April Moraga for our podcast art and to Marlon longet of Marlon and the sheiks for our amazing theme song. This has been an indecision as to production show notes and transcripts of today's episode are available@indecisions.com slash time to party that's time the number two party
Ben Silverio 25:44
you can join the conversation by using the hashtag time to party time. The number to party
Ansel Burch 25:50
as well as time the number to party all spelled out. We did it folks.
Nicole Keating 25:56
We did it we made we are at the end
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