Star Trek (2009): Part 3
Prepare yourselves to dive back in time for vengeance, shockingly patient vengeance, with Benton “Sancho” Sartore, Byron Czopek, and Ansel Burch. They’re pop culture observers/ zany podcasters/ excellent friends who have incredibly varied levels of attachment to this franchise and aren’t afraid to Spock about it.
It’s edutainment time! We have two dads on the podcast this month and not only did they watch a movie and manage to find time to talk about it on mic, they also did a minor amount of googling and/or reference to their existing knowledge. Are you inspired? Maybe you’ll do some minor googling too!
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Join us next week for our bonus/bloopers episode from 2009’s Star Trek, and make sure you’re subscribed because all month long, it’s #Time2Party
Episode Transcript
Ansel Burch 0:05
Hi, I'm Ansel Burch.
Byron Czopek 0:06
I'm Byron Czopek.
Benton Sartore 0:07
I'm Benton Sancho Sartore
Byron Czopek 0:09
And it's Time 2 Party.
Ansel Burch 0:13
This month's episodes about the 2009 Star Trek movie we're recorded on June 13 2023. We are not doctors, we don't give medical advice. Please drink responsibly party through tardy to time to time to party. Perfect.
Benton Sartore 0:27
Party harder for every one.
Ansel Burch 0:32
Time three party. Type 30 to
Byron Czopek 0:37
43rd degree.
Ansel Burch 0:40
So guys, we're talking about the 2009 Star Trek. That's right. The Star Trek they made again in 2009.
Byron Czopek 0:53
It seems like there were there was made like you said it like they made it again. Like they did it again.
Ansel Burch 0:59
In 2009, I think aside from you know, nerds like us. A lot of people were like, what why? With Kirk again? What?
Benton Sartore 1:08
Oh, from the 60s,
Byron Czopek 1:11
I wasn't I the time I didn't recognize that this was a film until you guys mentioned. I'll be brutally honest. Well, okay, so I will say, so. You know, I'll, I'll save it for my Okay. All right, because I have a whole story.
Ansel Burch 1:29
Well, then, let's go ahead and start reading again. Byron, what, what did you want to talk for this month? For entertainment? What what showed up in the movie that caught your attention and made you go I want to know more about that.
Byron Czopek 1:44
So it's more of a personal my, my all my in laws like my my father in law, my mother in law. My brother in law is a really big Star Trek fan. My sister in law's Big Star Trek fan too. So like, it's a family of Star Trek fans. And like, I know nothing about Star Trek,
Benton Sartore 2:02
are you the black sheep? Byron,
Byron Czopek 2:03
I'm the black sheep for not knowing anything about Star Trek. So we're just I mean, fine that they don't hold that against me. But like, they want whatever one of the newer ones was coming out. I don't remember which one it was like it was one of the JJ Abrams ones. I don't know if it was the third one or the second one. But it was coming down. They were showing it at this movie theater called the Hollywood cinema, which is out in the Chicago suburbs. And they usually like they do big events for for there. They have like, the movie theater is really cool. Like they they if you've never been inside of it, they literally just like it's wild wall memorabilia, like goofy stuff all over the place. And like they usually like to do big events, or at least I did back then. And actually one of my my friends, Scott Potter, who unfortunately passed away a couple of years ago, he was a big, he was a big proponent of doing a lot of these like big events and helped kind of put some of them together. So one of the events was for one of the new Star Trek movies. And they actually got William Shatner to do a site. Wow. So like, so he was in the lobby doing the signing. So like none of us, like my mother in law like loves William Shatner. So she just she gave him a little hello and everything. And he gave her a little wig back. You know, she didn't buy anything. I told him I love tech war
because I think the only reason I know about tech was because there was a show on USA that came on after Monday Night Raw, but I was like, Well, I guess we got away. Now like, so. But, but yeah, so that got me to thinking about, as we mentioned, I think in the previous episode of of William Shatner not being in this, and the I guess the of what I know and I don't know all the specifics, but I know I'm sure you guys could probably fill it in. But the specifics of like William Shatner, nobody in the cast, the original cast and William Shatner get along.
Benton Sartore 4:17
That's my understanding. Yes. Yeah.
Byron Czopek 4:21
Like he was kind of standoffish or, or didn't really like interact with anybody else within the cast. You know, you mentioned like Leonard Nimoy is actually in the movie, whereas William Shatner, nowhere to be found
Ansel Burch 4:33
here is like the band member that split off and tried to go solo. You know, he just sort of it seems like he burned a lot of bridges and, you know, became a little weirder later in his life as well.
Byron Czopek 4:44
When we saw him there. I was kind of like, it is kind of like when celebrities at certain point like they all just looked like wax figures in real life like it's like he looked exactly the same and he seemed like a nice nice So enough beat up celebrity heat. Like, he didn't care that it was a new. He was just like I'm getting my $50 per per signature, or whatever exorbitant amount of money it was. But yeah, it was it was it was kind of weird to like, like, I was like, I was in the middle of this like Star Trek. And people were dressed up and everything and I'm just looking around like, I don't know what any of this is. I didn't see any of the previous movies. So I went into that movie completely, like blank. I know who Spock is, and I know Kirk is and I and it was it was the one where they they switched around like instead of like, it was like going there death of Spock or something like that, like something Spock die. And one of them. Yeah, it was whatever of JJ Abrams when they did where they reversed. Yeah,
Ansel Burch 5:46
that was like, oh, no, the third one is equal to this one. Oh, yeah. The second one.
Byron Czopek 5:50
Okay. The dark dark. Yeah. The dark Into Darkness one. Okay, so, so yeah, so I saw that one. And like I but I barely that's the only thing I remember of it was switch the deaths. And the rest of the time I was just eating chicken fingers and enjoying those. They were good chicken fingers. So I don't know what anybody learned from any of this rambling other than William Shatner is not not anybody's nicely. Okay. Okay.
Ansel Burch 6:19
We do have a dear friend of the show, Stella who will no doubt have many things to say in defense of William Shatner. And you know, that she's entitled.
Byron Czopek 6:33
Yeah, well, like I said, he was like a wax figure. When I saw him. He gave he gave my mother in law a very nice nod. Even though she did not buy an autograph. So I think that goes a long way to give somebody a freebie. Because normally if I see people at autograph size by I just say something from their most obscure movie. Like tech war, it's like tech war or the time I saw the guy who plays cutting from the wire but he was there for like walking dead his role in walking dead at the comic book convention, and I was just like back how do you get away from those kids? Bob's just run the boxing gym.
Benton Sartore 7:18
It's delightful. Yeah.
Ansel Burch 7:22
Yeah, as far as I hear of, Shatner has always been really good to his fans. And so it's good to hear that he was, you know, at least personable for this event. But yeah, interesting. Okay. Benson, do you want to go next, or shall I go next? I'm gonna, okay. I had a bunch of different things that I thought of that I might want to talk about, including survival kits. Convertibles, era phobia, training simulators. But what I settled on is parkas. I don't know why. Yeah, we're gonna get that part. Yeah, exactly. Like so. What was this? I guess it was in that duffel bag that he pulled out of the pod. But yeah, it's just
Byron Czopek 8:16
this it's gonna be a
Ansel Burch 8:18
parka with big gloves. And then and then Spock also had a big fluffy parka that he got from somewhere. Apparently when when the Romulans maroon you on a on a planet to watch your your planet get exploded? They give you a just a dope jacket to do it in. Yeah, so So parkas. Yeah, they
Byron Czopek 8:42
gotta get swag team there. Yeah, I
Ansel Burch 8:45
really like the design scheme on the on that parka in the future. They're gonna have great parkas with the like, like Jonathan the spherical hood situation.
Byron Czopek 8:57
You've had enough time and enough research to really understand how the wind velocity is going to hit you. How you're going to back that. Listen, you guys went all all in on the Star Trek conversation for like a 45 minute contribute. I was just like standing there patiently. Now I can cut again. Yeah, this is where I was when we started talking about bargains.
Ansel Burch 9:20
So Park is just I just a quick skim through Wikipedia will tell you that Park has come from a Inuit design. So this was first nations design here and in here in the Great North of America. They're also made in Greenland, by the people who live there the First Nations folks of Greenland, although they're called by a different name. That's where we get the word on a rock. So if you're if your grandparents referred to Parker's as anoraks, there's there's a reason for that. Apparently we just started using both words.
Byron Czopek 10:04
It wasn't it wasn't like It's like go back to bed.
Ansel Burch 10:06
No, yes, we don't call them that. And there doesn't seem to be a clear like delineation as to why we started calling them anoraks as opposed to parkas. There's I wasn't able to spot any like clear reason why both words fell into common usage. And it seems especially odd as anorak originally was defined as a beaded item worn by Greenland women or brides. So not a code at all.
Byron Czopek 10:40
Or was it like in Greenland you only get the code it's like a coat over the dress. It's their part of their fashion sense and culture. But
Ansel Burch 10:54
I thought it was really interesting practice that it came into common usage because of military parkas. So in the 50s, for Korea, the the US military put forward two kinds of parkas that got put into common usage and would have been recognizable to you know, anybody who had access to the news or film reels or whatever. And so the snorkel parka, and the fishtail parka were two kinds of parkas that were issued by the US military and sort of popular as the style just really it's interesting to think that that sort of style of jacket didn't come around until that recently in in our understanding and modern usage that it was sort of like this I don't know localized garment for until then. It seems. But yeah, so parkas just just a super shallow dive it's odd to think that there was this gap in parka usage yeah,
Byron Czopek 12:11
by the way for for listeners at home you can totally tell Ansel is the one without kids because he had all this time to really get in depth on parkas media
Ansel Burch 12:22
on parkas and did two other noodles just so I wasn't going to be all the way racist when I brought it up
how about you mentioned what caught your fancy on this one?
Benton Sartore 12:42
You know one thing this this is this is really good enough so I have an invention within the start out. Okay, one thing I always love is like that because Star Trek play takes place in the future. And so you have event connected to like, to real date. Yeah. Which is which is weird. It's super weird. So I was thinking about like, like the warp drive the ability to like travel like far distances and space and so on so forth. Which supposedly we're going to invent in less than 40 years. Yeah. Start Star Trek First Contact, which is a film takes place around when we humans make first contact is in April of 2063.
Ansel Burch 13:28
Which doesn't so far enough from now.
Benton Sartore 13:32
We have to get through World War Three first to
Ansel Burch 13:35
end the eugenics crisis. Yeah.
Benton Sartore 13:38
Yeah, that's messed up. But yeah, I always enjoy like all the hearing all the dates and stuff that are very weird. And I know there's a lot of like jokes right now about there's an offhand reference in episode two, like, oh, the Irish reunification of 24. Like next year.
Ansel Burch 13:57
Quite a few Irish people are quite excited for the idea.
Byron Czopek 14:00
The best is when the the best is when it's something that has not happened clearly. Where it's like, like if you see like, like skate on New York, it's like New York. Oh, yeah. 99 It's like, well, it's not Yeah, it did. That didn't happen. Like there wasn't didn't become a prison colony where people Oh,
Ansel Burch 14:21
yeah. Supposedly, according to Star Trek in the 1990s there was a big eugenics war between genetically modified super men taking over the world. Yep. That's where Khan comes from. I think another weird thing too, is that in an episode recently of strange new worlds, they referred to the second American Civil War, and they used footage from January 6.
That's how it's gonna be remembered. Apparently. Apparently. Coming up next year is the bell riots.
Benton Sartore 14:50
Oh, yeah. Bell writes only what? Four or five years 2024 Okay, so yeah, bases
Byron Czopek 14:55
that were like people just gotta keep ringing bells outside of your door.
Ansel Burch 14:59
So the whole idea The bell rang a little darkly funny is that cities begin building like little like like ghettos for like homeless populations like this areas where they want them to like be shut off like they're gated the little poor communities where the rest of society while they were filming this episode in the 1990s the city of Los Angeles proposed exactly that. Yeah the Skid Row yeah pretty much no like we had this whole idea thinking it would be like something too extreme for any any modern politician actually want to try to do and then actually trying to do it in Los Angeles while we're building called and
Byron Czopek 15:33
tried to create Hamsterdam in Baltimore, and that worked out fine.
Benton Sartore 15:40
I mean, Pastor Dan was always semi good idea there's never been a paper bag, grouse yes
Byron Czopek 15:54
and I wish I wish the wire had some kind of time travel, because then we would could go on bad. Unfortunately, with no time travel, can't talk about it on the show. I
Ansel Burch 16:04
keep talking about putting together April Fool's episodes where we explain plot holes with time travel. So like take a movie that doesn't already have time travel in it and then you go okay, well the only way that this could have happened this could work is if these characters time
Byron Czopek 16:23
travel time travel. Yeah.
Ansel Burch 16:25
So if you can find an episode of the wire where the only explanation is time travel, I don't think it's likely since the wire sit had such tight writing. But you know, put that challenge out there for you.
Byron Czopek 16:37
There's got to be a season five episode we could have easily.
Benton Sartore 16:41
Yeah, yeah, I thought season five. Also, of course, for season five
Ansel Burch 16:45
budget did we get did we let you get everything out before we started doing bits?
Benton Sartore 16:52
Yes, that's okay. Yes.
Ansel Burch 16:55
What? Yes, absolutely. Okay. Hey, I didn't. Shoe dads with small children came on this podcast at all. It's impressive the amount of effort that you put
Byron Czopek 17:07
in the one thing that when you when you mentioned computer like simulator games, I was thinking it would be really cool to do that simulator and you get to eat an apple like that's, that's your whole video game. We just get to tell everybody else what to do while you're eating it adequately. That would be my that'd be my perfect video games. So
Ansel Burch 17:29
like next time, the three of us pressing the buttons. Yeah. Next time the three of us get together, we need to find somewhere where we can play starship Artemis, which is a bridge simulator game. And it's basically exactly that, like the you you get to play as the crew of the spaceship. And everybody gets their own readout. Captain Dooku doesn't get to push any buttons or read any like the captain doesn't get to know anything. The captain just has to take everybody else's input and be like yeah, drive that way I guess do they give the captain an apple or do you have to provide your own to bring your own apple but I I feel like we can arrange this I can
Byron Czopek 18:10
I can do that. Yeah, yeah, if we could do that if we could make my dream a reality my two dreams in life to eat an apple while telling somebody else what to do. And then to get the COVID 19 warnings, this podcast on Spotify. My two goals in life
Ansel Burch 18:30
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Byron Czopek 18:35
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Benton Sartore 18:53
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Ansel Burch 19:06
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Benton Sartore 19:27
be excellent to each other.
Ansel Burch 19:34
We did it
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