Back to the Future II Part 3
Erin Cline, Ben Silverio, and Ansel Burch are pop culture observers/ content creators/ excellent friends who are here to make sure everyone has sex with the right people at the right times.
It’s Edutainment time again and we are going all in with Tinker Hatfield, gull wing doors, interactive workout equipment, wall-mounted televisions, virtual reality/ augmented reality, video calls, home automation, and smart assistants.
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Next week we’re bringing the funk in the form of our bonus episode. It’s a little treat of bits that didn’t make the final cuts of this month’s episodes. Until then, make sure you’re subscribed because it’s always #Time2Party
Transcript
Ben Silverio 0:04
Hey, I'm Ben Silverio
Erin Cline 0:06
and I'm Erin Cline,
Ansel Burch 0:08
and I'm Ansel Burch,
Ben Silverio 0:09
and it's time to party.
Ansel Burch 0:15
We are not doctors. We don't give medical advice. Please drink responsibly. This episode was recorded on January, 20, 2025,
Ben Silverio 0:27
this is where theme song goes. Oh, party people, we are so happy to have you here with us today, because we are wrapping up our time. Time Back To The Future Part Two, joining us for this amazing conversation about one of our favorite movies ever of all time, we have Aaron Klein coming back. Oh, to be back, especially
Erin Cline 1:03
on my favorite episode that I forced you guys to have. So I'm glad you're still doing it.
Ben Silverio 1:11
You know, it was the perfect storm of things, because February marks our four year anniversary of the podcast. February is my birthday. February
Erin Cline 1:21
is my son's birthday too. See, it's
Ben Silverio 1:24
a great month. We are all about letting yourself experience joy in this time, especially on days like today, where full disclosure, yeah, well, heard the time the data we're recording this.
Erin Cline 1:43
This is why we include the dates, so that people have an understanding of like, yeah, tapping here
Ben Silverio 1:48
so you have some context. My city is on fire, but soon the country will be on fire. So you know again, so
Ansel Burch 1:57
if the vibes are a little off, you know why it's
Ben Silverio 2:00
true. And so that's
Ansel Burch 2:03
been immaculate till now. I know absolutely vibes.
Erin Cline 2:07
We're pushing those we're we're experiencing joy. We are pushing out the bad vibes. Keep them out there.
Ben Silverio 2:13
We absolutely are. And I want to yes please. So I want I know that our third episode is all about edutainment, which is one of the great things that Aaron imparted us with here on time to party. But I would actually like to borrow something from one of Aaron's podcasts real quick. Okay, because I have a rave.
Erin Cline 2:40
Oh, okay,
Ben Silverio 2:41
my rave is the incredible Erin Cline,
Unknown Speaker 2:45
Oh, shut
Ben Silverio 2:48
up. I really want to say this in a public way. First a starting this podcast with you and Ansel has been so great over these past few years. It does, in fact, bring joy. But, like, the whole reason why we started this was so that we would have a way to, like, hang out on a more regular basis. And I love that for our friendship. But you know, in all the years that I've known you, you know, away from podcasting and stuff, one of the things that I've come to respect most about Erin is her conviction, like, because, like, I don't think I have the self. Okay, one example, you boycotted WWE for the longest time and stuck to it
Erin Cline 3:38
until you're a party because I was there with you, I wanted to see you. Yeah, I went more than six years without ever watching anything from
Ben Silverio 3:46
WD, which is so wild, but still you have not given them a cent. And that's much, much better than any type of thing that I would have tried to do. I am, I am weak in that regard,
Erin Cline 4:02
Amazon test me every time
Ben Silverio 4:04
I still don't watch their Saudi shows, no, but the Royal Rumble is in Saudi next year, and that's gonna be a tough one to skip, which sucks. Nah. But you know, when you're growing up, when you're a kid, you think adults know everything, and adults like you know, have all the answers, and the truth is that they don't. But the closest thing that I have in my life to a real, actual adult is Erin Klein, because Erin is so informed, and she, you know, helps others be informed, and she'll yell at the top of her lungs to make sure people know and are informed. And I love it so so much. So in this time of celebration of our four years doing this, which is so wild, I'm so glad that we can have you on to, like, verbally, give you flowers. Is, and shout out how awesome you are. Thank you.
Erin Cline 5:07
But it did almost
Ben Silverio 5:12
I'm sorry.
Erin Cline 5:15
You say, like when you're a kid, and you think, like all adults know everything, there was, like, a moment in my life where I realized, fuck, I'm the adult and I don't know shit like, so I totally understand that feeling too. Of like, we know I'm supposed to be the adult in the room. And there are definitely days where I look around and I'm like, Wow, I'm more of an adult than I realized in many ways. But also, like, I get to have joy of not, like, always having to be restricted as an adult. I get to experience joy as like just a person. So it's very nice to hear that you think of me that way. That makes me feel very nice. I'm very flattered by that
Ben Silverio 5:51
party. People you all need to listen to Aaron's other projects. Go check out x tracks. Go check out not your demographic. Go see plan nine burlesque if you're in the Chicago area, go do all the things.
Erin Cline 6:03
Thank you. Yeah, if I had to make a recommendation one over the other, you should listen to extracts. And I say that because we've had not your demo for like, eight and a half years, and it is our red headed step child now. It is just free that talks about all kinds of shit that goes from not your demo, if you want structure in a script, mostly a script, yeah, pointed in a direction that's
Ben Silverio 6:36
very nice. And so now
Ansel Burch 6:38
free wheeling, I think, is how you would describe, not your demographic. Yes,
Erin Cline 6:42
you're right. You're right. It is definitely free will that survive, but
Ben Silverio 6:48
it's a whole lot of fun. Just like edutainment is a whole lot of fun, the joy of learning exactly, you know, we're not going to give you any adult worthy information here, I don't think no, but what we like to do is give a very shallow dive.
Erin Cline 7:10
I'm glad you've kept the very
Ben Silverio 7:12
Yes, as Aaron coined, it is a lazy river of knowledge that we're putting into your ear holes. This week, I did a little something different. So let's go with one of you guys,
Erin Cline 7:27
a pretty short one. So I'll go first. Okay. I mean, we sort of talked about this already in the other ones. The thing that I picked was the Back to the Future shoes that were made specifically, oh, these shoes were obviously made specifically for this movie, and they were they debuted as part of this movie. They appeared on screen for the first time ever, and people flipped shit, went absolutely hog wild, and were like, Why can't I actually buy these? And so they sold out the limited run. They were not prepared for people to be so into it. And so now it's a very limited it's super hard to find the originals. They're often in museums, like, there are not very many of them. And so this happens, right? That people are like, give us these fucking shoes, basically. And so the person who designed them, his name is Tinker Hatfield. I don't know if either of you know who Tinker Hatfield is. I would not be surprised if you don't, but he is, like, a big fucking deal in the sneaker community. He's a huge fucking deal, and part of that is because he was one of the people that helped design these shoes that are just absolutely fucking sick. And so he worked for Nike for a super long time, and people clamoring for these, like, 15 years later, they were like, fine, fine, we'll make another fucking shoe. And so they came out with, like, an entire line of them that were shaped this way. And the original ones were the Nike mag. Those are still very, like, rare. But they came out with, like, a huge line of them that lasted for a long time. And I had a pair of them when I was it was, like, five or six years ago, and I bought them, and I was like, I love these shoes. These are great. And I pulled them out of the box to put them on the first time. And my husband walked into the room, and he went, Did you seriously get back to the future shoes? And I looked at them and went, Oh fuck. I totally got back to the future shoes. It hadn't even occurred to me. Even occurred to me. I was just like, I love these. They look great. And then they showed up. And Michael was like, right there, caught immediately. Just called out, and I was like, Oh, you're right. And I went and I checked, and they are Tinker Hatfields. And, like, he, he's a he's one of those people that, if you mention his name to people in the secret community, they immediately are like, Fuck yeah. Tinker Hatfields the best. He makes these sick designs. And he worked for Nike, and obviously worked on a bunch of other stuff too, but I recommend, this is my shallow dive that I thought that people here's a little more about it. There's a show on Netflix called abstract the art of design. It came out in 2017 there's two seasons, and one of the things that they cover in that is Tinker Hatfield. And so they go through his like, entire process of what it was like to design. Sneakers and what it was like to feel like, oh, I have this idea that I didn't think it was going to be big. And how do you then expand that out into the other things that you make it was awesome. He talks about, like, minimalism inside of the design too, which I thought was fantastic and fascinating. So that's the thing about these shoes. They were, in fact, a huge debut as part of this movie. They were never intended to be real, shoes that were sold, and yet people clamored for them, just like what happens with camp movies. People took years and then realized we want these. This is some these are weird and silly, and we want these in our lives. And so I think it's a great example of culture enforcing and redefining culture that's within its own, like subset. That's such a weird way to describe that in group culture influencing out group culture, which changes the way that all out group culture exists. I just think it's a very fascinating piece of that. So yeah, Tinker Hatfield part of the abstract art of Design series on Netflix. So I cannot recommend that enough. So that's my extraordinarily shallow dive in that. Mostly I just want to talk about how sick Tinker Hatfield is
Ben Silverio 11:02
Hell, yeah. Honestly, why wouldn't you want to buy shoes from a movie that you love? I mean, almost exclusively buy shoes for that reason.
Erin Cline 11:13
It truly never occurred to me.
Ben Silverio 11:15
Honestly, I've been wearing the same shoes as Shang chi for the past couple years, and they're great. They're great hat
Erin Cline 11:22
fields down until they were dust. I could, I literally couldn't wear them anymore. And was like, All right, well, I got my use out of these. I love them. There you go. My mother in law was the one who gave me the money for them. I was like, Thanks, Pat.
Ansel Burch 11:41
Okay, that's me. I was watching a video. It was a bit from what I lie to you, which is this British panel show where they either tell true stories from their own lives or they lie to each other. And the whole point is to try and guess if the other person is lying. And it's one of those funny fluff, you know, let's get six comedians on the same set and see what happens, sort of shows. And one of them was telling a story about how he had accidentally taken off the door of a car during a test drive, and he called it a gull wing door. For me, that was the giveaway that he was telling the truth, because if you don't own one of these cars, you would never know to call it a gull wing door. But it occurred to me after the fact that that's exactly what is on the DeLorean so I wanted to talk about gull wing doors today. I wanted to do
Erin Cline 12:37
it. And was like, I hope someone else does it. Oh,
Ansel Burch 12:39
really. Oh, good. That's so good. There's not a lot of information out there, because they're just sort of a thing that happened. It seemed like a good idea. They put it in a race car in 1952 and people fucking loved it. People went feral over this car door design, even though it was super impractical and stupid. How do you park anywhere? Yeah, right. And that's actually the CounterPoint. So in 1954 when they released the first one, it was a terrible design. It didn't work. It was stupid, like it was purely for esthetics and being the weird car, right? But by the time it became a thing in the like, 60s, 70s, 80s, sort of culminating in the DeLorean, there is actually a functional purpose for it. The problem is that cars were getting wider and parking spots were not and the gull wing door pulls up instead of out. So if your parking spot is too narrow. The gull wing door on the DeLorean would actually save you that space. You'd be able to actually get out of your car. I
Erin Cline 13:48
would have thought it would do the other way that it would fuck up getting out of your car. Yeah, interesting.
Ben Silverio 13:52
Likewise, it's
Ansel Burch 13:54
well, it that it depends on how you design it, like in the DeLorean, and a couple other designs, like the Bricklin SV one, they're counter weighted so that they don't like, swing wide. They they like, they go up. They just go, like, straight up. Whereas the early ones, the ones in the 50s, absolutely, they were a nightmare. They would have absolutely clipped every car on the sides every time. But there, there is an argument for gull wing doors, and it is the DeLorean. The DeLorean like nailed that counter weighted mechanism so that it does pretty much go straight up with the profile of the car. The downside is everything else about it, terrible in every other way. Apparently, they are nearly impossible to waterproof and snow proof. So like, if anything gets on on the roof of the car, it's it's coming in, it. Meant that car designers couldn't release a convertible version of that car because the gull wing door, Nope, you're to take off the whole fucking assembly if you're gonna make it convertible, which apparently they did. Apparently there are a couple cars that had gull wing doors, and the convertible version, you just take off the whole thing. I don't see any photos of that, so I have no idea what that would look like, but apparently it was a thing. But yeah, so, so that's my shallow dive into gull wing doors. They go back to the 1950s
Erin Cline 15:32
I'm surprised I go back that far. I'm not gonna lie. I thought that they were like more recent than that.
Ansel Burch 15:37
It definitely feels like a 70s, 80s thing, right? I wonder if that's supposed
Erin Cline 15:43
like, I mean, the joke is obviously about the DeLorean, right? I want doc said, Why not go in style? And it's supposed to be like, lol, but that makes more sense for a character of his age, right then, to have been around it when he was younger and be like, these are fucking super cool. And then, like, gut it because it's basically useless. But, like, thinks the design is cool. That actually makes way more sense to me than him just kind of making a shitty joke, or whatever, or having bad taste, it implies that he has, like, super bad taste, which doesn't feel congruent necessarily with the character. I don't know that shadow dive made me think that
Ansel Burch 16:17
it is, it is nice to think of it as, yeah, this would have been a dope ass car for a person.
Erin Cline 16:22
Yeah, exactly.
Ansel Burch 16:26
Isn't there also something about the frame of the DeLorean being made out of a different kind of metal than than usual. I don't we're now getting into ephemera beyond what I've actually worked up, but I I feel like there was something about the DeLorean having a different frame. Hmm,
Ben Silverio 16:42
yeah. Because I think when they decided to re do the DeLorean in more recent history and start making more, I think they fixed that about the newer ones that it's like made out of something different, so that it's actually better. But the whole story behind the DeLorean and the DeLorean company is even wilder when you get into it. And there's that movie about it, about John DeLorean. They were like,
Erin Cline 17:11
they were like, goodbye. That's just absolute collapse of business called
Ansel Burch 17:17
driven, go look it up,
Ben Silverio 17:18
right? Yes, speaking of businesses and absolutely wildness, my entertainment is actually based on an article that I wrote when I was at my previous employer in Chicago. I do not need to name them, but you've probably seen their white and blue fucking trucks all over the city, delivering appliances and shit. But part of why I want to do this was because they took my byline off it. Oh, so I wanted to put it in a form of media that will have my name on it. So just to let you know, if you ever see this on the blog for that store, I did it back in 2020 but this also kind of builds off of Aaron's edutainment, because I did say that I do buy shoes based on where I've seen them, and you know, their place in pop culture and all that stuff. But in addition to the shoes actually existing in real life, now, there's a number of things that exist now that we saw in Back to the Future Part Two, and I wanted to look at some of those in what I'm calling edutainment, extra credit, because it's not just one thing. It's a couple things that I looked up, this futuristic tech that Bob Zemeckis and Bob Gale were thinking probably just like, looked really cool and stuff. But it's like now they have these really, these really functional aspects to them, for example, interactive workout equipment. In the cafe 80s, you see them on the on the bikes, you know, with screens and stuff. And now that's pretty normal for workout equipment to have a display with a touchscreen and whatever, you know, like stationary bikes, like the pro form studio bike or treadmills, like Nordic tracks, you know. But also pelotons, peloton, yeah, obviously the big one. They can change your your speed, your your incline, and you can even watch videos of trainers. You know that there are even live aspects to the workouts that you can like, sign up for classes in your own home. So there have been in advancements in workout equipment since the show me. Yeah, another one is wall mounted televisions, so like, flat screens became all the rage. But. The way that they use them in Back to the Future, they use them almost like as esthetic as art, you know. And the thing that comes to mind is the Samsung frame, which is meant to look like a picture frame in your house when you're not using it as a TV. There's no they're so cool, like they're, you know, TV is just getting thinner and thinner and all that stuff. It's, you know, it seemed like a frivolous idea. And Back To The Future Part Two, but now everyone and their mom has it.
Erin Cline 20:31
It's funny too, because I feel like it's TV. It's going over the hump, right? It's doing the horseshoe of like when it started. And I think what people want now is it was hidden, right? You had an entertainment center that you could, like, close, and then it was just a big, like, functional art piece that you use. Like, there used to be those big, like, the giant TVs that sat inside of those, like entertainment centers. But it was meant to look like art in, like, the 50s and 60s. Like, I love that people are like, You know what? I don't actually want to look at all fucking day this TV screen on a wall. I think maybe I want to put a picture frame around it, and maybe, I don't know, set a screen saver like that is the thing that we do a lot, that we want it to be more hidden. And so that's, yeah, that's right, that's a great observation. You're doing some great observing. Ben,
Ansel Burch 21:16
thank you. A lot of TVs have that feature now. You
Ben Silverio 21:19
know, it's like those U logs, right? Yes, exactly, including the ones that have, like, Apple TV hooked up to them. Where, like the where it's just like the shades in back the future too, where they project like something else, like, oh, look, it's Tokyo, you know. But speaking of vision, virtual and augmented reality goggles, yeah, you know, so like those VR and AR headsets, you know, like Google Glass, or the Oculus quest and things like that that will show you, you know, you can watch TV like Marty Jr. You can answer the phone like Marlene, like but then you can, you can walk around Skull Island from King Kong and watch him fight some dinosaurs, if you want. Like, there's some wild shit.
Erin Cline 22:09
It's about when VR and augmented reality glasses started to be shaped like that. And is it part of this cultural time where, like, retro futurism was so popular? Like, I'm so curious about where that shape came from, because it's so consistent like it that those look exactly like those look now. I'm just so curious. Like, where did that start? At what point was that established as that's what that looks like? Because they could have done anything. They could have done literally anything with the way that it looks today, and it looks identical to the way that we pictured it would look 35 years ago.
Ansel Burch 22:45
Yeah. Well, I think that's the only way they were able to sell it, because if you remember Google Glass, terrible, you know, granted, Google Glass doesn't do VR, but, yeah, tanked absolutely did
Ben Silverio 22:58
not work. Nobody wanted
Ansel Burch 23:00
and that I think it was just too different from how we imagined this technology to be. I totally agree. Yeah, the first flip phones looked a lot like Star Trek communicators. And like we had a we had a context for what this meant. I didn't
Erin Cline 23:17
know at the time that that's what that was, because I didn't watch track. And now I look back and I'm like, God, I wish I had that phone again.
Ben Silverio 23:23
I know, right. Okay, two more, one that we used a whole lot in 2020, and the years following, video calls,
Erin Cline 23:37
Walt Disney was obsessed with that shit too. They're inside of that weird, yes, right? Yes. 1,000% that it's funny, because even like, 2018 I would have been still like, Yeah, we don't really integrate that. That's the thing that people have that like, you don't use it that much now, 2020 it's like, yeah, that's how you talk to people. This is just how it all the time.
Ansel Burch 24:00
Yep, most of my conversations at work are that way. Yeah, 100%
Erin Cline 24:03
I'm never in the same room as people.
Ben Silverio 24:08
We are doing it as we speak. I know right, exactly
Ansel Burch 24:11
it's happening right now. Yeah, it's happening
Ben Silverio 24:14
right now. You know, there's a there's cameras integrated in almost every electronic that we have now, you know, from our phones to our computers to iPads, you know, and tablets and things like that, and but then things like the the Google chalk nest hub or whatever, or the the Facebook portal.
Erin Cline 24:39
I was thinking about that earlier this episode too. Yeah? Like,
Ben Silverio 24:42
there are things that just you would randomly have, and you can all of a sudden, call your friend, call your parents, and video with them, so much so that face timing has become a verb. Yeah, you know, I. And finally, the last thing that I wanted to bring up is home automation and smart assistance. Marty Jr asks for the fruit in the in the dining room. You know, they they turn their lights on. You know, everything in their house is automated right in the McFly home. But now you know, as opposed to seeing it as like a as like a sci fi trope, it's become commonplace with things like a smart speaker or a ring or nest camera at your front door, or like more complex, like control four systems you know that can just do everything, but with the help of, you know, Google or Siri or Alexa, you could just be like, Hey, play, play Huey Lewis in the news, and it'll do it from whatever service you've hooked up to.
Erin Cline 25:55
The thing that that clicked for me in this moment is that when Jennifer, that I've talked about like 75 times on these episodes, when Jennifer gets brought into the house and the cops are laying her down and they're saying, you know, ma'am, it's dangerous to enter without lights on. It just says lights on and they come on today people watching that would be like, yeah, it is dangerous to enter your house without them automatically turning on. And like, if, the time that this movie came out, it was like, what a crazy thing that you could ask your house to turn your lights on like that. And now it's just, like, people just do that. People just have, like, my lights are set to go on in my living room at 615 in the morning. Like, I don't even think about that shit anymore. I'm like that at the time that this movie was published, was like, was right. It was future. That was the fucking future, and now we live in the future.
Ansel Burch 26:45
Oh, yes, I can do almost everything that you do absolutely, yeah, it doesn't hand me fruit. That's basically the thing
Erin Cline 26:55
I need that you don't have that at my house. I want my fruit stored at my ceiling. I can just order it to come down. That'd be great.
Ben Silverio 27:03
Honestly, I don't know why Samsung hasn't developed like, a kind of like, fridge that goes in, like, the center island of your kitchen and it's just like fruit, and then it comes up,
Ansel Burch 27:13
like, That'd be dope as fun, right?
Ben Silverio 27:17
Get on that Samsung drink very quick,
Erin Cline 27:19
flying car. I was, oh, it totally was ascension tray,
Ansel Burch 27:25
if I can get it to follow me around the house too. Like, if you could, like, put a layer above the ceiling so, like, whatever room I'm in, I'm like, Ah, give me the fruit thing smarter.
Ben Silverio 27:41
I immediately went to, it's like Peter, Peter Pan's Flight, like track on your ceiling. Of just like following you. Yeah,
Erin Cline 27:51
now I'm gonna need a head moment I bought blackberries.
Ansel Burch 27:57
If you could just have, like, a thing that followed you around the house that had all the things you constantly forget. Just pick up my like, Oh, I gotta put my phone down. Table. It comes down. You set your phone down, it comes goes back up in the ceiling. Like, no, Where are my glasses? That should be the the activation phrase, too. Where is my I
Erin Cline 28:25
love this idea. We can get working. That would
Ben Silverio 28:27
be really cool. Oh, man, we could. We could make a killing on this if we actually knew how to make this work,
Ansel Burch 28:36
only any of us had the skills. Someone
Ben Silverio 28:38
get us an engineer, really quick. Yes, dad, so there, there it is. Those are a number of things that back the Future Part Two manifested into the world.
Erin Cline 28:49
All right, I feel like we have, we have come to an end.
Ben Silverio 28:53
Yes, we have adequately entertained you, hopefully solid
Erin Cline 28:58
three plus solid topics. Yes,
Ben Silverio 29:01
oh, man, back. I wish we could just talk about back the future all the time, because it makes me so happy. Honestly, I barely had to re watch this movie to prepare for this. I sat down
Erin Cline 29:13
beforehand and was like, here's a little how the sausage is made. This is what I do when I record x tracks. I don't watch the episode beforehand. I just write down what I remember. And 90% of the time I nailed the structure, and that's sort of what I did with this. I was like, I think I remember everything in the way it goes. Was like, totally, do sometimes, totally, sometimes I'm wrong. I've watched a couple episodes and been like, I have to rewrite my whole summary. This is all wrong most of the time that it works anyway,
Ben Silverio 29:43
hell yes, I had this on almost like I was watching a football game, like I put it on on my drive to San Diego. So I was really mostly just listening to it, but it was like playing in my head. Well. I was watching the road, hilarious
Erin Cline 30:01
way to experience back to the future too, as a radio play.
Ben Silverio 30:05
I know, right? I bet
Ansel Burch 30:07
that was actually pretty
Erin Cline 30:11
good. I love that. Okay, all right,
Ben Silverio 30:13
you can find us on the internet. I'm at B Silverio 20 on Instagram, X letter boxed. You know, I'm places
Erin Cline 30:22
on Instagram. You
Ansel Burch 30:24
can find me at the indecisionist on all the meta properties at Blue Sky. Use
Ben Silverio 30:27
the hashtag if you're still into that kind of thing. Time to party. That's time the number two party, if you want to join the conversation
Ansel Burch 30:35
as well as time the number two party, all spelled out thanks to work. Listen
Ben Silverio 30:40
party, people, it's been a ride for amazing years and counting, because we're not stopping. That's right. We got a whole year of great episodes coming up. Hopefully you'll stick with us for the ride. Whenever we catch Aaron down the road again, it'll be great get
Ansel Burch 31:00
some good shit planned out. Yeah, I'm happy
Erin Cline 31:03
to have started the year. That makes me feel very good. I'm happy about it. Hell
Ben Silverio 31:08
yes. And to quote the great Doc Brown, even though we have all these plans and we would like things to happen the way we want them to, Doc said, The future isn't written. It can be changed. You know that anyone can make their future whatever they want it to be. So hopefully, as we've entered this incredibly tumultuous year so far, and we're just in, my God, we're 20 days in at the time of this recording, and it may seem tough, but the future can be changed, and we can totally do that. Hopefully a good way to start is to be excellent to each other.
Erin Cline 31:48
Party on dudes.
