The Map of Tiny Perfect Things: Part 3
Get ready to be in it for the long haul with Nicole Keating, Ben Silverio, and Ansel Burch. They’re pop culture observers/ zany podcasters/ excellent friends who may just be able to figure out this time loop before they go crazy trying.
We’re about to out-nerd even ourselves with this one as Nicole and Ben talk about Rubix cubes and math class. Grab your TI-81 and put some tape on those glasses, we’ve got some edutaining to do.
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Ansel Burch is @Indecisionist on Twitter and @TheIndecisionist on IG.
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Episode Transcript:
Ben Silverio 0:00
Hi I'm Ben Silverio
Nicole Keating 0:06
And I'm Nicole Keating.
Ansel Burch 0:07
And I'm Ansel Burch and it's time to today's episode on The Map of Tiny Perfect Things was recorded on the second of May 2023. We are not doctors we don't get medical advice Please drink responsibly
Okay, so that's the Nicole and Ben. April Fool's episode
Ben Silverio 0:33
ducks fly together.
Ansel Burch 0:36
We need to find all of the plot inconsistencies and chalk them up to time travel.
Nicole Keating 0:42
Ducks fly together. Dicks tie together.
Ben Silverio 0:46
dicks tie together
Nicole Keating 0:48
through rain through shine for snows for sleet dicks tied together
Ben Silverio 0:58
man party people welcome back.
Ansel Burch 1:01
I'm so bad at raining you both in
Ben Silverio 1:06
I'm so sorry. PARTY PEOPLE. Welcome back to time to party. Where Ansel is constantly annoyed at US
Nicole Keating 1:12
If he was annoyed he'd be doing a better job of reigning us both in
Ansel Burch 1:21
charming that's a good point like this movie. But not sad. Oh,
Nicole Keating 1:27
no, no, I'm very happy.
Ben Silverio 1:29
Yeah, I mean, I was a little sad earlier.
Nicole Keating 1:33
You should be you can be sad beings. Yes. Okay. I'd love to cry so this movie was great comes
Ansel Burch 1:38
for you in cycle
Speaker 1 1:42
but yes, hopefully you checked out our first episode a couple of weeks ago where we gave you some rules for drinking and smoking while watching this awesome movie on Prime Video color maps
Nicole Keating 1:54
Which you are totally going to say correctly.
Speaker 2 1:55
Totally am called the map of tiny perfect things
Ansel Burch 2:00
to take I'm going to use for all the other times you fucked it up.
Ben Silverio 2:05
It happened a lot. I'm kidding.
Nicole Keating 2:07
The small tiny map of wee baby things.
Ben Silverio 2:10
Louis baby Stephen.
Nicole Keating 2:12
Wee baby map.
Ansel Burch 2:13
Fun fact it's June 19.
Speaker 2 2:19
Happy Juneteenth. Celebrate it, do it. Learn about it. Google it do it better than
Nicole Keating 2:24
like the US government or literally anybody that's probably trying to sell you to
Ansel Burch 2:34
turn away from the Juneteenth products.
Nicole Keating 2:36
50th products. Always calm but also always racist. Oh my god. I will let Black Twitter be entertaining me today. I hope you deliver. That's a promise.
Speaker 2 2:50
Go support your favorite black actors and performers. All of them. We don't have time. That are great. That's true. And they should all be supported.
Nicole Keating 2:58
And I'm really disappointed if they don't call themselves black there's
Ansel Burch 3:03
I was I will be honest, I did fun fun anecdote last year I was so pleased that I could not for the life of me managed to order from a black owned business on Juneteenth. Oh good because they were so snowed with orders. Yeah, I tried there. Speaking of
Ben Silverio 3:18
white gifts, I know right? Take my money it was it was
Ansel Burch 3:21
one of those things where somebody went around and somebody was like yeah, make sure you buy your lunch from a black owned business and I was like that's a great idea could not couldn't for the life of me and good for them. Good for the good for I ended up eating a sandwich that I made myself.
Nicole Keating 3:38
Good for Miss Joon teen which is a real thing actually. Really Mr. And teeth I believe so. There was actually a movie about it and the mom that I would actually like to see but I have not seen it yet because I'm sure it'll be dramatic because it's about a mother daughter relationship. And it stars Nicole something from she was the lead the the female lead on the Sleepy Hollow TV show that they did. Um,
Ansel Burch 4:04
oh God, that show was good. Nicole
Nicole Keating 4:05
Buhari. And she's the mom and like, she was Miss Juneteenth when she was young. Now her daughter is running for Ms. giunti. And then it's like, she's bringing up all these feelings. So I know it's going to be dramatic about a mother and it's cool relationship
Ansel Burch 4:20
that that show was better than it needed to be Sleepy Hollow. I agree.
Nicole Keating 4:22
Oh, yeah. Speaking people I find hot Nicole Buhari.
Ansel Burch 4:26
Oh, for sure. Then what did you What did you end up picking? All
Ben Silverio 4:29
right. Well, what I ended up going with was the Rubik's Cube.
Ansel Burch 4:34
Oh, Mr. Rubik's Cube.
Ben Silverio 4:38
Yeah. Because in the movie Mark keeps trying to solve this Rubik's Cube throughout the various days that he's there. And finally when he brings Margaret back to his room, she solves it in a few minutes. And he's just like, What the fuck? So
Ansel Burch 4:54
that, you know, it's not it's not hard.
Nicole Keating 4:56
I knew she was going to do that. Yeah, also, I set my Chess app on master. Nice. She's smart.
Ben Silverio 5:06
She is way too smart. So about Rubik's Cubes. Fun fact. The Rubik's cube was not invented by Ernesto Rubik. Really, it was first patented by Larry D. Nichols. In March 1970.
Ansel Burch 5:28
Nichols cube just didn't have the same ring apparently doesn't actually Nichols cube No,
Ben Silverio 5:34
not as cool. And it wasn't a three by three by three. It was a two by two by two. That sounds terrible. Right? Yeah. I mean, what?
Nicole Keating 5:45
Also, I hate puzzles. I reject Rubik's cube. So I'm really learning for the first time that they're three by three.
Ben Silverio 5:57
I mean, the basic one is three by three. They have other ones too. Yeah, you
Ansel Burch 6:00
can go four by four all the way up to like eight, or eight or 1212 or something. Yeah,
Ben Silverio 6:05
um, but you know, Nichols was Canadian. So oh, he was just being nice was sure. And his was held together by magnets.
Ansel Burch 6:15
Oh, that's actually kind of, that's probably probably way easier,
Ben Silverio 6:19
probably way easier to me like it was a whole lick twist. It's a whole mechanism, that Rubik really improved on. Yeah, I'm
Ansel Burch 6:29
gonna be honest. Every time I tried to think about what the inside of a Rubik's cube looks like, my brain breaks a little bit because like, it's got to slide four different ways. That's, like, literally never every individual piece has to, like, how do they do
Ben Silverio 6:46
that? Yep. And Ernesto Rubik was the one who figured out how to do it. So originally, he worked at the Department of Interior Design at the Academy of Applied Arts and Crafts in Budapest.
Nicole Keating 7:00
I was just about to ask what kind of name is or no Rubik?
Ben Silverio 7:03
Yep, he.
Nicole Keating 7:06
Hungarian? Yes, Hungarian? Yes.
Ben Silverio 7:09
Yes. And even though originally, it was reported that the Rubik's cube was a tool to help students understand 3d objects, its actual purpose was solving the structural problems of the moving parts independently, without the entire mechanism falling apart. Yeah. That was the whole deal. And he didn't even think of it as a puzzle. He was just thinking, thinking of it as like an exercise. engineering challenge. Yes, exactly. Yeah. It wasn't until later. When toy companies were just like, hey, that's a thing. Yeah, that's a game. We
Ansel Burch 7:50
can we get in on some of that? That's
Ben Silverio 7:52
essentially and back then that's when it was known as the magic cube. They were first introduced in 1977, released in Budapest, and the interlocking pieces, made it so that you couldn't pull them apart, right Nicholas design was just like falling apart all the time. Because it was just four, or
Nicole Keating 8:21
how many magnets
Ansel Burch 8:23
at the eight cubes? Yes, just held together with magnets.
Ben Silverio 8:28
The toy company that actually made the Rubik's cube into what we know today, or at least the beginnings of it was called ideal toys. They partnered with Rubik to distribute the puzzle worldwide. They wanted to have a better name to trademark because the magic cube is really generic. Yeah, yeah. So that's when they were just like, bro, your name is gotta go on this. Because how many Rubik's Do you know? Right?
Nicole Keating 8:56
Hungry or,
Ben Silverio 8:57
I mean, worldwide, right? Like not a very common name. So in 1980, that's when they picked Rubik's apostrophe s cube. But before that, potential names were the Gordian knot. Oh, that's good. Or the Inka Gold.
Ansel Burch 9:17
That feels a little race.
Nicole Keating 9:18
Yeah, I was just about to say, well, that little bit. Someone from Hungary shouldn't be calling some Inga. And also gold. I think we stole that we meaning white people.
Ben Silverio 9:31
So the first major craze of the Rubik's cube was from 1980 to 1982. Oh, wow, that shorts that shorts. I do want to know one more thing about Rubik's cubes. And that part of my research involved all of the algorithms and strategy and the various handbooks to tell you how to solve them. But I could not make heads or tails of them. Oh, Oh, I
Ansel Burch 10:00
wish that all said. So my little brother got into speed running Rubik's Cubes a couple years ago. Really? That guy? I mean, this is he's, he's a fucking laser engineer like,
Ben Silverio 10:12
well. So he is one of the 15 million worldwide Rubik's Cube sales. Oh, absolutely. Yeah,
Ansel Burch 10:22
he's at least three or four of those. Because he got the variant we were talking about the number of cubes you can get right? Yeah, he went up to like eight or 12 or some shit like, and then he just got bored. He was like, Yeah, this isn't. It's not hard enough anymore. So you just gave up.
Ben Silverio 10:38
If he wants he can go to Tennessee and solve the world's largest Rubik's Cube. Oh, which is
Ansel Burch 10:45
200 faces?
Ben Silverio 10:46
No, it's a regular Rubik's Cube just giant. Oh, so you can use the same principle.
Ansel Burch 10:52
Same algorithm. You just have to be very, very tall.
Ben Silverio 10:55
Very tall. Yeah.
Nicole Keating 10:56
talans. drunk, sure. or have some kind of special tool.
Ansel Burch 10:59
He is like seven feet tall. So you might be a good candidate. Oh, wow. Well, just a nightmare at ski
Nicole Keating 11:06
to come. Did somebody say Bill Gretzky's Christ.
Ansel Burch 11:14
Go? What did you pay? Dear, I
Nicole Keating 11:16
quote this movie when I say you're a nerd who doesn't like math? President? I picked the history of math class. Oh, wow. Yes. Cut back all the way long ago black and white and white sepia tone. So we go back to the beginning of this country. Obviously everything is horrible and racist and smelly. But every single old timey school in this country was just really focused on like literacy, like we need to teach you to read.
Ansel Burch 11:51
That's the great works were the were the basis of Well, first, it
Nicole Keating 11:54
was literally just we need to teach you to read. Because nobody knows when people start, like, there's no, there's no structure. You don't start school at a specific age, you basically just go to school, when your parents want to send you to school, and you're not there if your parents don't want to send you there. So it was all just reading, we're going to teach you your ABCs we're going to teach you literally how to sound out words. Basic, very, very basic stuff. And then if you were a little bit more elite, and you went to school longer and or consistently, you were Yes, you were taught like we're going to actually like read books. And if they specifically thought that you were a college bound asshole, which I wrote college bound asshole, because anybody who went to college in the 1700s is guaranteed to be an asshole.
Ansel Burch 12:45
I mean, it's the hipster thing of the time. If you heard about these colleges, it's a it's a new thing. I realized.
Ben Silverio 12:49
Basically, it's what the people who go to Harvard now sound like. Yes, yeah.
Nicole Keating 12:54
Did I mention that I've gone to Harvard, I'm wearing a Harvard sweatshirt while you say that.
Ansel Burch 13:00
I was recently working at a building for like old people. And there was an 80 year old man still trying to curry favor on the fact that he went to Harvard. I was like, bro, that was so fucking long ago,
Ben Silverio 13:14
the only Harvard grad that I will give any leeway to Conan O'Brien.
Ansel Burch 13:20
But he never brings it up. I think that's probably part of why it works. Yeah,
Nicole Keating 13:24
I didn't know he went to Harvard. Because if you're successful, you don't need to bring up where you went to college, which is why I bring up Northwestern. Did you know? But yes, if you are a college bound asshole, you read the classics. And it was all very focused on like, you must learn your ancient Greek literature, you must learn your Shakespeare because even back then Shakespeare was considered like classical. Yep. And then good ol Ben Franklin, our national treasure. I say that in biggle quotes. In the 18th century, he was like on this crusade for like better education and better academics. I'm sure that a lot of other people were involved. But the source material that I read was literally from 1996. Because when you google search history of mathematics, education, there are history there are histories of mathematics. There are current mathematics, statistics about like what's going on now in the United States. But there are only two essays and like articles about the actual history of math in the US and this sort of education. One is from 2003 and is insanely long and is even more insanely like academically phrased and ridiculous. The other one is from 1996, which is the article we're referencing There we go. And so I'm sure there were other people than Ben Franklin involved. But because this article is from 1996, they literally just quote Mr. Key on a keychain.
Ansel Burch 15:11
I'm reminded of 1776 when he talks about how it'll, it'll only be Ben Franklin who smoked the ground and Rose Brent, George Washington fully formed on his horse.
Nicole Keating 15:27
Shocking that he wasn't a president, because we really don't idolize anybody else like this in the US. We got to memorize our presidents and I fucking hate it. So again, I'm sure there were other people involved in this movement. But Ben Franklin is credited as the person who said, like, we need better academics, people need to come out into the world more learned. And so they were like, Okay, fine. We'll start teaching like basic arithmetic, we'll start teaching like basic mechanics, like how to work a fucking screwdriver, or whatever. So big problem
Ansel Burch 16:01
enlightenment
Nicole Keating 16:05
meant, the more you know, that was actually, that phrase dates back to the enlightenment. That was their jingle and catchphrase, probably more, you know, with a rainbow. So the problem was that nobody knew math to teach math. They were like, Oh, wait, we want to teach arithmetic in schools. Except we haven't been teaching arithmetic in schools. So no one knows math to teach math. So then enter this guy. Um, where did I put his name up Warren Colburn and his first lessons in arithmetic. And this is like if you're watching like an an of Green Gables. Say, this is like the math book that they have,
Ansel Burch 16:53
like green cover with like one
Nicole Keating 16:55
like gilt Yeah, did quote unquote, letters that not actual gold just like gold Tobler? Yeah, yeah. They're like mathematics book. And this was very much alike. The system was like, We are literally just going to teach you like, basic memorization. One plus one equals two. And you just have to memorize one plus one equals two sounds a lot like how we memorize like our times, tables and stuff like that. And the only thing about this is that they didn't start teaching it until you were like 12 or 13. And by that time, your brain is getting a little bit more solid, and you're not like not taking in those funds. You're not taking in the information as well as you should. And so then Warren Coburn comes in and says, like, Okay, we should not just teach one plus one equals two, we should actually teach what addition means I have one thing, and another thing, and I put those things together. And that's two things. And that is what they called literally back in the 1800s. New Math.
Ben Silverio 18:06
Oh, no. Yeah. So they rebranded new math.
Nicole Keating 18:09
Yeah, new math is twice.
Ben Silverio 18:12
New New Math. New New Math. Wait. So where is this taking place in the country right now is this all in Philadelphia is a solid in just the East Coast? Philadelphia. Philadelphia is the first capital of this country.
Ansel Burch 18:27
Ben Franklin was hanging out.
Nicole Keating 18:30
Where is Warren Colburn from? We don't know.
Ben Silverio 18:33
But one of my favorites. One of my favorite fun facts about Ben Franklin is that he was an infamous womanizer. I'm just like,
Ansel Burch 18:41
history's greatest horndog.
Ben Silverio 18:43
Yeah. And I'm like this guy.
Nicole Keating 18:43
Oh, yeah. He had like,
Ben Silverio 18:46
the chitin key got him far.
Ansel Burch 18:48
Ben Franklin could and did get it. He did.
Ben Silverio 18:52
That he did.
Nicole Keating 18:54
Warren Coburn, what's the what's the phrase? Yeah, you're right. Massachusetts. Is all probably on the East Coast. Because also like that's where all like the colleges universities were. So it
Ansel Burch 19:06
just makes sense. I mean, we hadn't invented the rest of the country yet. So
Nicole Keating 19:09
if I invented you mean stole Yeah, correct. Exactly. Yeah. Cool.
Ansel Burch 19:13
There were still people living there doing their own thing that we hadn't fucked with.
Nicole Keating 19:18
I'm the world's greatest sleeper. That's an Arthur reference. arthro the yard?
Ben Silverio 19:25
Oh, a RDVRKRD. Yeah, that's how I remember how to spell Aardvark.
Nicole Keating 19:34
So he's got this concept of like, we can teach you like the actual operations as opposed to like, why we're doing this as opposed to just memorizing your times tables as opposed to just memorizing one plus one equals two. And then that's kind of fucking it for the rest of the 1800s. Sweet Jesus. I know. Summary of the story education The haircut was really depressing.
Ben Silverio 20:03
I'm glad it got better as it went on.
Nicole Keating 20:08
Because a lot of the things that we're talking about is literally like, remember memorizing your times tables in second grade. That's it. That's it. You under you kind of understand why you're multiplying these things. But then you just memorize the times tables on. That's your understanding. That's your understanding of math. So
Ben Silverio 20:29
as a math person, do you understand the current iteration of new math? New Math? 2.0? New new
Ansel Burch 20:35
new mat? New
Ben Silverio 20:36
New Math?
Nicole Keating 20:37
I hate it. Well, no. So there's so there's like, technically, what we all learned in school is new math. But yes, yes.
Ansel Burch 20:46
Oh, yeah. There's a new new math a new new new math. And it's like the,
Nicole Keating 20:53
this like conceptual piece of bullshit, where it's like, we're gonna we're gonna tell kids stories about various things that are supposed to allow
Ansel Burch 21:05
does make sense. It just doesn't make sense to us, because we didn't learn it that way. Like, the new way that they're teaching math, Common Core math, I think is what they're actually calling it.
Ben Silverio 21:14
Good. They expanded their ads.
Ansel Burch 21:16
Yeah, it really does work. Like it's, it's really cunning, if you give it the title, how do they how do they teach it? So it's, it's more about process than it is about? Like, like, we learned long division, right? And you when you do long division, you have to go okay, all right. So I'm going to move this number over here. And I'm going to move this number over here. And then I'm going to like work my way down through it. They're packaging into subsets. So they're doing their their 10s than their hundreds then they're like they're they're maxing it out by learning to logically look at the number in sets, based upon their interesting yeah, based upon their like factors of, of 10 or 12, or 16, or whatever. He's sophisticated. It's really smart. And they've the way they've done it is that they've they figured out how to like package that for little kids. So that by the time they're learning arithmetic, I know thing to like, oh, yeah, that's very that's that's factors of 16. No problem. Here we go. Very sophisticated
Nicole Keating 22:19
thinking
Ben Silverio 22:20
now is this the way that China and Japan have been teaching math? Probably, I don't know. Because like, I remember when I was younger, it was always like China and Japan are like surpassing our, our test scores, and they're doing better always have the best school because they were learning things differently than we were. Yeah, I'm wondering if this is the same method that we finally caught up to it, and now they're doing something different that makes them better. Yeah, it
Ansel Burch 22:46
certainly could be my understanding of the methodology in, in China in Japan, granted, I mean, I was in Ohio, so that was probably pretty racist, whatever they were telling me. But my understanding, was it. It was more on the like, the rote drilling method, okay.
Nicole Keating 23:07
Which I mean, honestly, that fucking shit dates back to 1726.
Ansel Burch 23:14
Yeah, it produces results. As long as you're not looking for consistent. That
Nicole Keating 23:17
is how we started teaching math in this country. And it seems like it's what
Ansel Burch 23:21
we're still doing. It's what we taught everything.
Nicole Keating 23:24
And so the it was, it was just, it was sort of the philosophy behind it was like, we're not teaching math for any real purposes. We're just teaching math because like, it's a good way to discipline the mind. And it literally wasn't until fucking Sputnik 1957, when the United States was like, oh, fuck,
Ansel Burch 23:50
we got to get these Dum Dums to space. Exactly.
Nicole Keating 23:53
Mass my good for the progression.
Ansel Burch 24:00
They were like, oh, man, we only found 12 People who can do math that we're gonna have to step this shit up. But did
Nicole Keating 24:06
they know that it was 12? People? Or could we not count that? I? I don't know.
Ansel Burch 24:13
Calculation figure out. Yeah.
Nicole Keating 24:15
So then there's new new math, the one before the one we're talking about now, which was based on the fact that like, these two people did a survey of the United States. And literally everybody was like, I don't use math in my life. It's literally just what I hand in cash. Or if they were really, really like on the upper ends of business, they sort of understood how money how money worked. So if you understood how money works, do you kind of understood arithmetic, but they were like, this is a problem. Yeah, we should actually teach people like how things work like algebra, like geometry, we should maybe have something more advanced beyond and arithmetic that was in 1957. And guess what? Flash fucking forward to 2023. And the only information available about the history of teaching mathematics in the United States is what we're doing now. Which sounds a lot like what we were doing in 1957. Congratulations, we live in America.
Ansel Burch 25:23
I was curious to know what the trajectory was like in other places, too. I mean,
Nicole Keating 25:29
what was Rubix? Learning?
Ansel Burch 25:31
Yeah. What? What did what was Hungary's situation? Like?
Nicole Keating 25:36
I also say that I also thought Rubik's cube was our you bi X for a really long time. It is.
Ben Silverio 25:43
I mean, that's the bread. So it's brand, but
Ansel Burch 25:47
it was it was Rubik's ik with Apostrophe S, I think until like the 90s or something
Ben Silverio 25:53
until they sold it to a Hasbro. I think so. Yeah, of
Nicole Keating 25:57
course, Hasbro was
Ansel Burch 25:58
when we were kids. It was K apostrophe S.
Nicole Keating 26:01
are they learning? Why were all the Russian kids in my high school so fucking smart? Like, what
Ansel Burch 26:05
the fuck were they? They were sending shit. Just base my friends. They were sending shit to space
Nicole Keating 26:09
before we were even like, oh, maybe math is good idea.
Ben Silverio 26:14
I mean, looking at the state of teaching and education in this country now. They don't even want to tell you about fucking anything. They want
Nicole Keating 26:24
to tell you that racism ever existed in this country, let alone still exist. I mean, they certainly want Why would they want to give you the tools to go to
Ansel Burch 26:32
space? They certainly won't tell you that we beat the Russians to space by borrowing Nazis.
Ben Silverio 26:41
The Browns didn't make it to Hill Valley. Von Braun's like God, there it is. I'm not saying the dark brown was a Nazi. No, no. Dark brown is probably his uncle. Maybe definitely. Show for
Nicole Keating 27:03
show. Yeah, he he is here by the grace of the United States Government forgiving some Germans. Yeah. Great. It's got me to not actually find this on
Ben Silverio 27:18
the internet. Well, first, I do want to say that teachers should get paid more. Yeah, yes. They're they're putting up with all this shit. All this shit that this whole just talked about. And then the modern day shit and just teachers have to put up with so much. And they do not get appreciated for it, pay them more.
Ansel Burch 27:40
I have and support them. Like, not just pay them but also like put the shit in the classroom that they need. I know the fact that they're buying their own goddamn tissues is criminal.
Nicole Keating 27:51
Ridiculous. So while I substitute taught high school theater for three months, while a friend of mine was on maternity leave, and she sounds awful. It was great because it had an end date. The starting salary should be $100,000. And I was a fucking substitute. Like, the people who were like, had to deal with like the unions, and I was a substitute arts teacher so like we had a later quote unquote call time it's what I call the leader call time and all the other teachers will all the other teachers had to be there like fucking sick. Yeah, those
Ansel Burch 28:27
motherfuckers are up early.
Nicole Keating 28:29
Jesus Christ, how they do it.
Ben Silverio 28:31
There's no reason to be up before 9am
Nicole Keating 28:34
Respect. Teachers. Respect your fucking teachers, man.
Ben Silverio 28:38
I mean, without maybe if they don't without great teachers, I wouldn't be where I am right now. And you know, like, a few years ago, I want to say last year, maybe the year before. The teacher who really influenced me to explore being a writer. He passed away. His name was Ed moody. And he was good. Good name a name for an English teacher. Right?
Nicole Keating 29:04
That's a great name for anything. Absolutely. That's a character named Superman. Absolutely
Ben Silverio 29:08
character name. He introduced me to things like the Dead Poets Society. Cummings, and just so much stuff. And it's I mean, like, sure he's still taught that Romeo and Juliet movie that is problematic now, but
Nicole Keating 29:25
Oh, but only like it was it's a good movie until you know that they filmed that scene.
Ben Silverio 29:31
Yes. But they didn't know about that. Back then.
Nicole Keating 29:35
The Romeo and Juliet movie The Zeffirelli, but when they show High School, typically they didn't. He didn't tell them they were going to be naked. He just was like, why don't why don't you take over your clothes, etc will be something more believable, etc. And then like Olivia, what's her name was like, I Okay, fine. He was like no, we won't show anything on camera but then you see
Ansel Burch 29:58
your movies now? Every high school kid has to get
Nicole Keating 30:01
movies. Yeah. And I think and both of them actually had recently have recently filed like a I don't know if it was a lawsuit or something, but they've recently both of them have come out saying like, this was cool and weird. Which I appreciate that it was both of them. And, and I liked that they were in this together. So that's one one positive thing.
Ben Silverio 30:25
Yeah, yeah, about this.
Nicole Keating 30:29
But also, the Met Gala was Karl Lagerfeld themed. And he's, uh, he had enough of the meet you do movement?
Ben Silverio 30:35
Oh, my God. The important thing to take away from this episode of time to party is that you should appreciate your teachers they should pay get paid more. And Rubik's Cubes are fun. Yeah. And math class. Math is good. I'm so bad at math. When they said that quote in the movie, I was just like, wow, called out. Who's bad at math? Oh, yeah, I'm bad at math.
Nicole Keating 31:03
Are you serious?
Ansel Burch 31:04
Oh, um, I'm lucky. I can do my books. Um,
Ben Silverio 31:07
I have a person. So me June.
Ansel Burch 31:09
I can't do my bit.
Nicole Keating 31:12
When I went into college, I had been accepted, like, pre accepted into this honors math program at Northwestern without even applying.
Ben Silverio 31:19
It's not further you're hot and smart. What's going on?
Nicole Keating 31:21
Thank you. Thank you. I also have frizzy hair. Like, I'm also breaking out like, I am in fucking high school. So really, I'm seeing moving really fast. But no, I was accepted into this honors math program. And the I was like, so excited because my other career path was a astrophysicist. And I was like, Yeah, I'm gonna do like, I'm gonna double major in math and theater, etc. Just this class was at 9am on the other side of kills my freshman year, I literally fucking dropped out before midterms. Oh, also, the professor had the thickest Russian accent I've ever heard in my fucking life, and I'm from fucking Skokie. So that is thick. And so I couldn't understand him while he was teaching. And so I had to like go home and just, like, spend so much time with my math textbook. And I was like, I don't I'm here for the physics man. Like I'm here for space. Yeah, I don't I this this is this is too much. I am not passionate enough about math to deal with all this bullshit. And also be up at 9am on the other side of game, I barely
Ben Silverio 32:33
took classes that were at 10am in the basement of the building where I lived. That's impressive. 9am across Canvas was not happening.
Nicole Keating 32:42
My acting class started fucking 830 I'm
Ben Silverio 32:45
sorry. Are you serious? Most of my film classes started after in the afternoon
Ansel Burch 32:51
because they know what they're doing or
Ben Silverio 32:53
when it was dark already.
Nicole Keating 32:55
Know we started that early because my my teacher is an actor Remy Bumppo. And their rehearsals started Ah, so his classes had to be done. Like all the classes that he taught had to be done by like noon,
Ben Silverio 33:08
like I remember one year one one quarter we had to film studies classes back to back. So I was in the movie theater for eight hours. Basically. It was fucking that's
Nicole Keating 33:23
the one good thing about having an acting class that early is that when we all got out? What are the theater building is next to the Student Union. And so we all went to the Student Union to get like some kind of breakfast. And we got out at the exact same time that Maury was starting. We all watched Maury together. You are the father. Rip Jerry Springer. Yeah, no, it just happened. Midwest icon Jerry Springer.
Ben Silverio 33:55
Well, party people. We hope you learned something this week on time to party. We certainly throw a lot at you. Maybe you want to go solve a Rubik's Cube maybe you want to solve a basic algebra.
Ansel Burch 34:08
Maybe you want to be mayor of Cincinnati. Maybe
Ben Silverio 34:09
you want to do that too. No, you don't. You might be doing a better job than the current one. Um, yes.
Ansel Burch 34:15
Wouldn't be hard. Probably.
Ben Silverio 34:19
So while you figure out what you want to do with your life Oh, wow. Wow, I sound like Marcus dad. Yeah, I don't want to I don't want to do no you don't you don't take your time. Futures.
Ansel Burch 34:35
You know, way away no matter what happens your future will still be there for you. Oh,
Nicole Keating 34:40
dude, the fucking mom's like last words about like your life and being like, you've you've had everything and it cost you everything. I'm gonna puke. It's so sad and beautiful. Map of tiny, small perfect, beautiful small things.
Ben Silverio 35:00
Blackcats you can find us on the internet I'm at vehcile varier 20 on Instagram, Twitter and hive.
Nicole Keating 35:06
I'm at the Fake Geek Girl on all the platforms.
Ansel Burch 35:09
I am at indecision nest on Twitter and at the indecision nest on Instagram.
Ben Silverio 35:13
You can join the conversation by using the hashtag time to party. That's time the number two party
Ansel Burch 35:21
and time the number two party all spelled out special thanks to April Meralco for our podcast art and to Marlon longer to have Marlon on the shakes for our amazing theme song. This has been an indecision list production visit indecision list.com/time to party that's time the number two party for back episodes and transcripts of all of our episodes and season three
Ben Silverio 35:42
party people that does it for another episode of Party. We'll be back eventually, with another with another one of our great friends.
Ansel Burch 35:51
Next week. The bloopers episode from be real robust. heads up on that door
Ben Silverio 35:57
welcome. Until then, remember all the good stuff that we talked about? Remember math Rubik's Cube. Remember how important
Ansel Burch 36:04
math is? And teachers and
Ben Silverio 36:07
teachers? Oh, okay,
Ansel Burch 36:08
your teachers, teachers.
Ben Silverio 36:11
Absolutely. While you're remembering teachers, I also want you to be excellent to each other
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